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Don't forget, if you own an 03, 53, 04 or 54 reg car you can give your opinions, good or bad, in the 2006 Top Gear car survey.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/car_survey/index.shtml
I have just completed it and it seems a much more thorough survey than most – certainly far better than the Auto Express effort.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/car_survey/index.shtml
I have just completed it and it seems a much more thorough survey than most – certainly far better than the Auto Express effort.
Numenor said:
I never saw any when I was in yesterday sealing the deal for my pre-facelift pre-reg FR either. Apart from the demonstrator that is. Had a wee shot in that. Loved it.
IainW said:I never saw any when I was in yesterday sealing the deal for my pre-facelift pre-reg FR either. Apart from the demonstrator that is. Had a wee shot in that. Loved it.
What did you pay it for it, if u dont mind me asking...
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CH1 said:
Sorry for backtracking a little here, but I think they're right. I mean, how mank Ibiza FRs do I see each day? One, mine. How many Skoda vRS? Four or five.
The Skud looks more popular to me.
I know popular doesn't always mean cool, but I think Seat are the poor relative at VAG and have been for a bit.
Have to agree the latest SEAT offerings are shocking in terms of styling, new toledo and leon 
and after a few of the posts around here not so relaible, although people dont complain when it working fine.
SEAT really do seem to have lost the advantage that they had in the 90's of selling VW's with a youthful image at rock bottom prices. The bargain factors faded now and i think only £500 separates the base model Ibiza and Polo's which isnt a huge saving given questionable SEAT styling and the cheap interior particularly of the MK4 Ibiza.
The problem is that VW have realised the Cupra's were outselling the GTi's etc and have differentiated SEAT with this new wierd and wonderful (sorry questionable) styling and at the same time have taken some of the quality out to make the VW's look better.
Therefore, theyre uncool
and after a few of the posts around here not so relaible, although people dont complain when it working fine.SEAT really do seem to have lost the advantage that they had in the 90's of selling VW's with a youthful image at rock bottom prices. The bargain factors faded now and i think only £500 separates the base model Ibiza and Polo's which isnt a huge saving given questionable SEAT styling and the cheap interior particularly of the MK4 Ibiza.
The problem is that VW have realised the Cupra's were outselling the GTi's etc and have differentiated SEAT with this new wierd and wonderful (sorry questionable) styling and at the same time have taken some of the quality out to make the VW's look better.
Therefore, theyre uncool
The Leon looks too people carriery now.
I think the Ibiza looks cool, even though the interior on the mk4 is a bit dull. Its mechanically sound and good to drive though.
I think the Skoda is the budget brand, the SEAT is the budget sport brand and the VW is the quality brand where as Audi is the premium brand with a sporty focus. Just my interpretation of how they have set it up.
I think the Ibiza looks cool, even though the interior on the mk4 is a bit dull. Its mechanically sound and good to drive though.
I think the Skoda is the budget brand, the SEAT is the budget sport brand and the VW is the quality brand where as Audi is the premium brand with a sporty focus. Just my interpretation of how they have set it up.
IMO the bigest problem with the FR is that nasty "platinum" splash of plastic on the dash. That and they are so anoyingly common round here now. I normaly see about 4 or 5 a day most in black (normaly I see 2, 3 doors in black a 5 door in black and a 3 door in light blue (the wing mirrors look realy naff on that paint)). I hope there isn't a new Ibiza based on the new Golf/A3/Leon platform as that's just going to be too big for the market it's aimed at.
never see them around here. They are very interested in SEAt in the US. I was there last week and they are following the SEAT Cupra Cup and know they can eat Scoobies (the chap I was working with owneda WRX and was a bit of a petrol head (sorry off thread really)
I've still to see another FR locally. I see a few base models and a Cupra on the way to and from work, but never an FR. I like the fact that you don't see too many Ibizas on the road. Makes it that bit more special, compared to the likes of Clios and 206s which are everywhere you turn.
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