VW Announcement RE: Creaking suspension

Tom B

Active Member
Apr 2, 2002
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Northampton
I was thinking about the creaking on my Cupra the other day (I posted this before it was even built!) and it needs to go in for a few bits so I will ask about it.
 

andregrek

Guest
:coolthumb Tom.. that would be great! If so alot of creaking could be sorted and therefore more happy owners!!:fool: Keep us updated mate!
 

andregrek

Guest
hmm.. is there any creaking suspension owner here mechanically minded enough to be able to shed light on what it might be? Just got my Kw springs but I am not so sure whether to put them in place since I've got a feeling that they'd make matters worse. Just asking so that if the kits aren't available, then the only option is to have a go at an aftermarket part if it's available... anyway excuse my lack of knowledge. Looked up in ElsaWin and its troubleshooting guide ... and under 'noises from front of car', the only thing that had to do with squeaking/creaking was:

Problem description:

Squeaking noises from front axle oscillating arm silentblock

Cause:

Composition of silentblocks unsuitable.

Friction in silentblocks.

Production solution:

Ensure silentblocks from the same supplier are fitted to the oscillating arms on both sides.

From 05.04, chassis number: 4R 230110

Service solution:

Fit new silentblocks

TBH I don't know exactly what these are or what's their function... i'm gonna' try a search on google
 

Kendo

The Kit Car Man
May 15, 2005
329
0
erskine
My car was in for a service 2 weeks ago and to get the suspension checked for the 3rd time due to knocking/creaking. The mechanic admitted to me that seat had now admitted there was a problem and the bushes would be replaced. Certainly improved it........................ for now.
 

chase06

Full Member
Aug 8, 2006
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Mines terrible too, seems to creak over every bump. Turning right I seem to get a loud knocking noise, as if something is loose. Its been in the garage numerous times but they keep saying all is fine.

Its either a crap design, poor quality or the garage is lying to me and something is up!

It even made me consider getting shot of the car, bu then I realised I cant afford to LOL
 

andregrek

Guest
well chase, the loud knocking on turning might be a ball joint. My dad's car (a vw passat) had to had the ball joints replaced at only 32000 km. The rubber somehow came off thus opening the seal to the exterior elements especially water and made the car do the knocking on turning... well hope that might help:shrug:
 

andregrek

Guest
and rash, would that mean that fitting kw dampers and springs might sort the creaking out? That would be a great excuse ;)
 

DIFT

Torquing all the Torque
Oct 8, 2004
1,546
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Kent/London
Mine squeeks and rattles like a good un. Not long had it back after the last time it was in. All they did again was take it apart, screw it back together and grease it up. Lasted a good 200 yards :rolleyes:

It going back in at the end of the month!
 

muddyboots

Still hanging around
Oct 16, 2002
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2
well chase, the loud knocking on turning might be a ball joint. My dad's car (a vw passat) had to had the ball joints replaced at only 32000 km. The rubber somehow came off thus opening the seal to the exterior elements especially water and made the car do the knocking on turning... well hope that might help:shrug:
That was a known weak point that affected a LOT of Passats - not a common issue on the Ibiza though.
 

mdaw1985

Active Member
Aug 3, 2008
227
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St.Leonards, East Sussex
I to have had this problem. But mine seems to creak then squeek on the drivers side front suspension. I've had two different mechanics look at it and said it looks fine. I agree its embarassing when you drive past people sounding like your suspension is going to break any minute. Also if i ever go to sell the car who would buy it with what sounds like crap suspension.
 

BigDave67

Guest
I had the same problem, at first it only did it when the front dipped after easing off hard acceleration. When back to the stealer, they couldn't find anything, but greased everything round the suspension and it went. But it came back so I went back to stealer and they said the engineer couldn't hear it. I got in the car to go home and hear it straight away. But if they can't find anything wrong nothing is about to break, I'll just have to put up with it. Then it got really bad, did it all the time so I went back again. They found it was something like the rear track control arm bush (creak was front driver side). It was a few days out of warranty and although I had been several times they said it wasn't linked to the creak I reported before and would not support my warranty claim. Shame I was not on this site then or I would have had more evidence. I don't use that stealer any more. I’ll check my receipts for the part they changed and post details tomorrow.
 

RUM4MO

Active Member
Jun 4, 2008
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South Scotland
I had the same problem, at first it only did it when the front dipped after easing off hard acceleration. When back to the stealer, they couldn't find anything, but greased everything round the suspension and it went. But it came back so I went back to stealer and they said the engineer couldn't hear it. I got in the car to go home and hear it straight away. But if they can't find anything wrong nothing is about to break, I'll just have to put up with it. Then it got really bad, did it all the time so I went back again. They found it was something like the rear track control arm bush (creak was front driver side). It was a few days out of warranty and although I had been several times they said it wasn't linked to the creak I reported before and would not support my warranty claim. Shame I was not on this site then or I would have had more evidence. I don't use that stealer any more. I’ll check my receipts for the part they changed and post details tomorrow.

Yes its a pity that you hadn't been on these forums, the proper fix for what you had should really have been a visit to your nearest independant VAG specialist for him to replace the bushes on both sides with the Ibiza Cupra solid ones - the crappy normal voided bushes tear again very quickly and the whole job and money needs to be repeated again!
 

Damoegan

Sir Bob,a geordy legend..
Oct 15, 2007
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Newcastle
Mine squeeks and groans like a good un but only when its parked up and you get in and the suspension gets compressed.
 

BigDave67

Guest
Yes its a pity that you hadn't been on these forums, the proper fix for what you had should really have been a visit to your nearest independant VAG specialist for him to replace the bushes on both sides with the Ibiza Cupra solid ones - the crappy normal voided bushes tear again very quickly and the whole job and money needs to be repeated again!

I had it done in 2005 but I have noticed a click when I take my foot of the accelerator recently. It sounded like it was the pedal and is different to the creak, but it might be that bush failing again :(
 
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BigDave67

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I had the same problem, at first it only did it when the front dipped after easing off hard acceleration. Went back to the stealer, they couldn't find anything, but greased everything round the suspension and it went. But it came back so I went back to stealer and they said the engineer couldn't hear it. I got in the car to go home and hear it straight away. But if they can't find anything wrong nothing is about to break, I'll just have to put up with it. Then it got really bad, did it all the time so I went back again. They found it was something like the rear track control arm bush (creak was front driver side). It was a few days out of warranty and although I had been several times they said it wasn't linked to the creak I reported before and would not support my warranty claim. Shame I was not on this site then or I would have had more evidence. I don't use that stealer any more. I’ll check my receipts for the part they changed and post details tomorrow.

The invoice doesn't help much. The description is CONSOLE ...r/f tca arm
It cost £62.25 ex vat and labour. But it does have a part number the dealer could look up to find out what you want them to check.
It is 6Q0199294D
 
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RUM4MO

Active Member
Jun 4, 2008
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The invoice doesn't help much. The description is CONSOLE ...r/f tca arm
It cost £62.25 ex vat and labour. But it does have a part number the dealer could look up to find out what you want them to check.
It is 6Q0199294D

That's naughty, someone was being a whimp there and could not or did not trust themselves to just change the bush - there is a history of clumsy folk cracking the console when inserting this bush - but there is a VAG mandated tool set to allow just the bush to be changed. The point is, if you dont have a Cupra, then changing this console like for like is never going to give you a proper fix. The non-Cupra console is never supplied with a Cupra bush!
 
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