235bhp 270Ibs ft on stage 1!!!!!

[jonjay]

best advise is replace all those cheap t-bolt clamps with some good hi-grip stainless steel ones, as these stay tight once tightened unlike the ones you have which you can go on and on and on tightening...
all the best
bill

Interesting point. How do you know whether they are good or bad quality - is there a tell tell sign apart from them coming loose? I been having issues with mine intercooler pipes popping and wondering if there is a more effective clip as T-Bolts are too thick to connect around my SFS connectors.

Maz

 

[ibizacupra]

hi-grip stainless clamps as forge sell is what I use....

with the t-bolt style (cheapies in particular like you get on ebay stuff) clamp but give no real feel as to whether they are clamped tight.. and on some tight, is actually crushed and deformed pipe below..

I have seen some of these clamps without the small portion which makes for a full seal.. and on these this allows the hose to pukker up under the bolt.. = leak

go round them tightening them, then go round again after its been driven and it will likely have some more to tighten again.

bead rolled pipe ends also needed really, along with dry, oil free pipes, so the silicon can grab onto something and stick

 

[jonjay]

These ones? http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&PageNo=2&catalog=0022HC

Think I will order some, cheers.

 

[shaun@amdessex]

Because their customer service is spot on and they've always helped me out. I'm not wanting to fall out with anyone, it's just things I've heard about their rollers and after the findings out from my car etc. I've heard their rollers over read and it proved it a little with my LCR. My car will never be going on rollers at RR days anymore as it's just pub bragging rights. On the road is where it counts

Hi Brad

I am glad that you recognise that we do our best to help every customer as best we can not just you although you are about the only person who has been able to take their car before they are able to pay for it!

I am sure that if you search on any car forum you will find someone saying something about somebody. It is the nature of a forum?

I have to say that running a car on rollers that are very old and have 1 small fan as a comparison to our set-up is just a massive waste of time? Have you ever thought that we have 3x the air being forced into the front end which maybe explains most of the difference with other rolling roads?

As an example we had a customer complaining that his Golf was 50bhp down on another rolling road. We said come down and we will check it- when he arrived we had a look at the picture of his car on the rolling road and the fan was an absolute joke! It was approx. 1 foot square! We told him he shouldn't waste his time having the car RR'd without proper fans.

As to us being "expensive" in your post- who are you comparing us with? You pays your money and you takes your choice. I personally wouldn't shop at Lidls but I wouldn't go hungry if I did?

Cheers Shaun.

 

[ibizacupra]

These ones? http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&PageNo=2&catalog=0022HC

Think I will order some, cheers.

yep, hi-grips
good clamps..

 

[brad1]

Hi Brad

I am glad that you recognise that we do our best to help every customer as best we can not just you although you are about the only person who has been able to take their car before they are able to pay for it!

I am sure that if you search on any car forum you will find someone saying something about somebody. It is the nature of a forum?

I have to say that running a car on rollers that are very old and have 1 small fan as a comparison to our set-up is just a massive waste of time? Have you ever thought that we have 3x the air being forced into the front end which maybe explains most of the difference with other rolling roads?

As an example we had a customer complaining that his Golf was 50bhp down on another rolling road. We said come down and we will check it- when he arrived we had a look at the picture of his car on the rolling road and the fan was an absolute joke! It was approx. 1 foot square! We told him he shouldn't waste his time having the car RR'd without proper fans.

As to us being "expensive" in your post- who are you comparing us with? You pays your money and you takes your choice. I personally wouldn't shop at Lidls but I wouldn't go hungry if I did?

Cheers Shaun.

Im not comparing you to other tuning companies, i am saying for example you compared to a back street garage, you pay for the decent products that you supply the vag modding community, even if its expensive, you pay alot for a good product
For example, i can get a forge TIP brand new for a tad over a £100, bills 3" TIP is around £140, id rather pay the extra £40 for bills product cause it works and is tried and tested

 

[JamJay]

shame this thread lost its way... was quite interestd in it at the start. The thread is just about ready for the scrap heap or deleting now.

Sadly I think you may be right, I'm not even totally sure how we got onto the point we're at now anyway . Anywho, I'll go as far to say that any rollers that I have been on have not reflected the same performance as on the road (g/s calculation - x1.275 or /0.8 and IAT on stock K04-023) however I have a strong feeling that this is due to heat soak caused by higher indoor air temps, my SMIC setup and the fact that I have never run the car on a RR in any of the cooler months of the year. In the hotter months of the year, the car is noticably more sluggish than compared to the colder months, noticable on RR & on the road with logs to compare. I can say though that on a Summer's day last year, my stock 210 LCR made 210.7bhp on AMD's rolling road on the first run which I think shows its accuracy. After that obviously the power dropped due to heat soak and the factors that cause it but then that's a design flaw with the car, not the tuner or RR, I guess the solution would be to operate the RR in a refridgerated room.

Personally I use a RR as a way of telling if there are any problems with the car, if the figures it produces are within the same region then I know it's ok.