I have a 210 LCR which is in the 20k's...still very fresh. I plan to get before an after RR figures so i'll post up.
I think we all need to go to the Top Gear air field, one LCR with each brand of remap, TIP, 007 & Filter and drag it
CC remap on stock LCR? RR results anyone?
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I have a 210 LCR which is in the 20k's...still very fresh. I plan to get before an after RR figures so i'll post up.
I think we all need to go to the Top Gear air field, one LCR with each brand of remap, TIP, 007 & Filter and drag it
My 210 made the figures below... I was very pleased with the lovely smooth curve which definitely reflects in the way it feels and drives... You won't regret it!
If you want to compare C-C phase1 against C-C phase2, mine is graph Number 1 on the link posted... same rolling road, same day
My 210 made the figures below... I was very pleased with the lovely smooth curve which definitely reflects in the way it feels and drives... You won't regret it!
So would you say power is constant from idle to redline? Does it feel much quicker than when the car was standard?
I hope to have mine done in a couple of weeks
I find the power builds from 2800rpm all the way up to 7200 extended redline - almost VTEC like power increasing with the revs. It feels faster than standard for sure - when you plant your foot the steering wheel will wriggle and tug as the revs build but it's all controllable.So would you say power is constant from idle to redline? Does it feel much quicker than when the car was standard?
I hope to have mine done in a couple of weeks
The power before the turbo spools up (below 2500) isn't really any different but this is because a lot of the increased power comes from increased turbo boost. What I find much better is that the throttle levels have been tweaked and it is much more responsive than stock.
Sounds good to me as I really don't want an aggressive map that shoots off fast and then has no balls after 5000rpm.
I wonder what the outcome would be if you did a straight line run between two LCR's, one with CC and another with say...REVO or AMD?
A dead heat probably. The nice thing about the CC map is that you might not even know it was mapped if you just drove it normally, its when you get past about 80% throttle you suddenly find it has loads more to give and you get a nice shove in the back.
What I don't understand is why all remaps aren't the same. For instance, where would REVO or AMD be better than CC? As far as I can tell, they all produce the same BHP and Torque & 0-60 is the same.
The difference is in the delivery of the power. Take the difference between the VAG 1.8T and a high revving engine like that in the CTR. Both are capable of producing similar peak power but delivery is in completely different ways. You have to rev the hell out of the CTR as most of the power is high up the rev range whereas the 1.8T can produce power and torque at much lower revs.
The same is true for remaps only with a much more subtle difference than that exemplified above. Personally, I'm not sure the differences are all that noticeable.
The reason that I went for the CC remap is because I wanted the feeling of a 3.5L NA petrol with power increasing across a large powerband rather than a torquier but shorter power band.
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Yep very smooth and not overly torquey to make your passengers sick - but as above when you use more throttle is really does fly.
Ahhhh ok. So that would mean, that with some other tuners, you'd get a massive shove in the back from say 2 - 4.5k but then have alot less power from there to 6.5k? If that's the case then I doubt you'd be able to hide the fact that it was mapped when you didn't want to drive hard.
Basically, I don't want to get spanked once the power of the remap tails off higher up the revs
Basically, I don't want to get spanked once the power of the remap tails off higher up the revs
Yeah I went looking for power graphs from the various companies (CC, Revo, AmD) prior to getting my remap and CC definately has a flatter torque curve which results in power higher up the rev range. It is even better than the stock map in terms of its' power curve.
So would you say that a remap with most of its torque placed low in the revs, as opposed to CC which is balanced, would be faster off the line so to speak?
Mate, there really is so little in it I don't think you'd notice much in a drag race. You are talking about two cars with the same weight, aerodynamics and almost exactly the same power output. It's more about how the car feels to drive on a day to day basis.
I don't think that will be the case as too much torque will just spin the wheels off the line. If you look at the Civic Type R that is very good off the line and it has less torque and just uses the revs to give you the power. Torque, power and engine speed (revs) are all intrinsicly linked - more torque at lower revs (Revo, AmD) will mean more power at lower revs - more torque at higher revs (CC) will mean more power at higher revs. But power (along with weight and traction, of course) is the factor that will affect acceleration.
Thanks for clearing that up you two. I just found myself wondering that the other day and I don't recall it being discussed before. I'll be heading down the CC route, I think it'll suit my driving style best and coming from VTEC Honda's, i think i'll enjoy the power up top
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The Custom-Code remap will as stated be very smooth with good power delivery and holding throughout the entire RPM range.
This means you get a comfortable drive whilst also having the power to overtake without having to go down through the gears and also the torque to pull away from the line.
The only real way to tell is to drive 3-4 LCR's all with software and see which 1 suits your driving style or listen to what people have to say and take it from there
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This means you get a comfortable drive whilst also having the power to overtake without having to go down through the gears and also the torque to pull away from the line.
The only real way to tell is to drive 3-4 LCR's all with software and see which 1 suits your driving style or listen to what people have to say and take it from there
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