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i was actually looking at original G60 mk2 golfs and E30 M3's and came across this one i read about them, its basically the 4 motion in the leons. and yes a charger on that would SHIFT!!!!

i think this version would feel much more well built and handle tons better than the Cupra R.

if only i had loads of money to throw away, ide buy it, change it to RHD and wack the charger on!!

I can't see how it would feel better built, as it's the same as any other Leon in terms of build quality, components, materials etc. Even screwed together in the same way!

What would worry me though is the fact it's got a big heavy engine over the front wheels, that's going to make the handling a lot more vague with a big tendency to understeer much more than the LCR. And since the suspension etc is closer to the LC than the LC, you'll end up with a great cruising car that's not so hot on the handling.
 
dont forget headlights and wiring foglights nowt too drastic though

i will be tempted one day - saw a full motor being put in one at Martorell in 2001 and just fell in love with it

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yes i am that sad a petrolhead :):) and would sell my soul for a W8 coffee table
 
I wonder if anyone could shoehorn the Phaeton's W12 into a Leon... in a "money no object" effort... god if only. R32? Pah! :D
 
I can't see how it would feel better built, as it's the same as any other Leon in terms of build quality, components, materials etc. Even screwed together in the same way!

What would worry me though is the fact it's got a big heavy engine over the front wheels, that's going to make the handling a lot more vague with a big tendency to understeer much more than the LCR. And since the suspension etc is closer to the LC than the LC, you'll end up with a great cruising car that's not so hot on the handling.

Whats wrong with the LC suspension? Just put decent coilovers and some ARB's on the V6 and it'll handle pretty much the same as an LCR with those mods. OK there's a bit more weight up front from the V6, but don't forget there's slightly more weight at the back too, so it still should be pretty well balenced.
 
There was a yellow one in autotrader last week for sale, was already in mph etc, looked very nice!

Was just going to say the same mate. Saw that yesterday and wondered whether its worth a look. Wonder if its possible to convert to RHD.

You'd need a shoe horn to work on it though - That V6 is crammed in there!
 
Whats wrong with the LC suspension? Just put decent coilovers and some ARB's on the V6 and it'll handle pretty much the same as an LCR with those mods. OK there's a bit more weight up front from the V6, but don't forget there's slightly more weight at the back too, so it still should be pretty well balenced.

But then it wouldnt be LC suspension!
 
Whats wrong with the LC suspension? Just put decent coilovers and some ARB's on the V6 and it'll handle pretty much the same as an LCR with those mods. OK there's a bit more weight up front from the V6, but don't forget there's slightly more weight at the back too, so it still should be pretty well balenced.
My car currently handles better than an LCR with whole suspension kit. HOWEVER Rob is right, standard LC suspension is good but not so good compared to LCR suspension.
 
Personally I'd say it's no better, if not worse. But I won't start that one again, I don't want to be linched by all the other R owners at the next meet I go to :lol:
The fact is tho it isnt better...its factual cant be argued with...:)
 
Surely this is just a MKIV Golf V6 4Motion in a Seat frock? I know these golfs aren't that highly rated in terms of performance or handling (I was considering one for a mad moment before I saw the light and bought my LCR) so not sure I see what all the fuss is about? I would infinately prefer an LCR.
 
Surely this is just a MKIV Golf V6 4Motion in a Seat frock? I know these golfs aren't that highly rated in terms of performance or handling (I was considering one for a mad moment before I saw the light and bought my LCR) so not sure I see what all the fuss is about? I would infinately prefer an LCR.

I suppose it depends on what you prefer, power delivery wise too... Shed loads of torque and low end grunt, or a nice, high revving 4 pot with a kick in the back at 2.5k revs!!

4 wheel drive would be nice but I'd prefer the LC(R) engines over a V6 to be honest

Handling can easily be changed to suit the drivers needs anyway.
 
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Surely this is just a MKIV Golf V6 4Motion in a Seat frock? I know these golfs aren't that highly rated in terms of performance or handling (I was considering one for a mad moment before I saw the light and bought my LCR) so not sure I see what all the fuss is about? I would infinately prefer an LCR.

no trust me i come from being a true DUB nut, and if you have driven an R32 or a 4motion, its all about the feel behind the wheel! and esp when a charger or a turbo kit is applied.

i was quiet dissapointed with the LCR, its ok if you drive it nicely but give some and it just fels too nimble for me. a the cupra 4 is what i would prefer. especially with the motorway driving i do.