First logs, not happy, feedback needed please

armo · Nov 13, 2010

First time logs i need you to check for me if you would be so kind fellas, not happy with what im getting through maf at all, not sure if iv logged right values but i did what i though was relevant, can do more if needs be. Car is stage 1 with intake, 007p and N249 bypass running super unleaded

This is a 3rd gear run

Code:

Saturday	13	November	2010	16:17:39											
06A 906 032 HN 		1.8L R4/5VT         0002													
															
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0.01	2760	115.8	12.58	67	0.4	2920	140.6	2310	1900	0.8	3120	27	87.5	2260
	1.22	3400	184.2	21.08	121.03	1.71	3720	185	2230	2440	2.11	3920	30	76.9	2160
	2.62	4200	185	23.12	141.19	3.12	4520	163.2	2230	2090	3.53	4720	35	92.2	2340
	3.93	4960	166.9	22.1	158.61	4.32	5160	162.4	2190	2190	4.73	5360	39	85.5	2130
	5.25	5600	151.9	20.06	162.83	5.74	5840	149.6	2210	2000	6.14	6000	45	100	2010
	6.54	6160	141.4	18.7	167.28	6.96	6320	137.6	2250	1960	7.45	6600	50	0	2540

These 2 are 4th gear runs

Code:

Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
	Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
0.01	2960	165.4	23.8	76.14	0.5	3120	167.7	2290	2330	0.99	3280	26	71	2290
1.41	3400	167.7	22.44	107	1.81	3560	168.4	2200	2180	2.21	3720	29	72.9	2210
2.7	3880	166.2	21.42	120.64	3.1	4040	172.2	2270	2330	3.52	4160	32	76.1	2200
3.92	4320	162.4	21.76	139.19	4.32	4480	160.9	2230	2230	4.72	4600	36	79.2	2140
5.14	4760	161.7	21.76	146.06	5.52	4880	156.4	2180	2120	5.93	5040	39	81.2	2140
6.34	5160	159.4	21.76	156.94	6.85	5320	159.4	2200	2150	7.33	5480	45	85.1	2130
7.74	5600	152.6	20.4	164.39	8.14	5720	151.1	2220	2070	8.54	5800	50	100	2030
8.96	5920	146.6	19.72	166.25	9.36	6040	145.9	2230	1990	9.76	6080	54	100	2000
10.16	6200	140.6	18.7	164.92	10.67	6280	138.3	2270	1990	11.17	6320	58	100	1990

Code:

Saturday	13	November	2010	16:21:30											
06A 906 032 HN 		1.8L R4/5VT         0002													
															
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0.4	3120	150.4	16.32	97.78	0.81	3280	175.9	2260	2450	0.02	3040	26	100	1530
	1.69	3600	168.4	21.08	98.28	2.11	3720	174.4	2250	2350	1.29	3480	30	71.4	2540
	3.01	4000	170.7	21.42	134.75	3.41	4200	174.4	2270	2500	2.61	3920	33	72.2	2250
	4.32	4480	173.7	24.82	150.06	4.72	4600	170.7	2230	2390	3.82	4320	36	86.3	2120
	5.52	4840	163.2	23.12	154.22	5.94	4960	165.4	2200	2310	5.13	4720	40	85.9	2030
	6.83	5240	160.9	21.76	160.11	7.23	5360	157.9	2230	2180	6.43	5120	45	89.8	2240
	8.04	5560	154.9	21.08	164.39	8.44	5640	151.1	2240	2120	7.64	5440	50	94.9	2160
	9.26	5800	149.6	20.74	165.44	9.66	5880	147.4	2250	2020	8.86	5720	54	100	2100
	10.44	6040	142.9	19.38	164.92	10.86	6120	142.1	2260	2020	10.06	5960	58	100	2010
	11.77	6280	139.8	18.7	168.08	12.27	6360	138.3	2290	1960	11.37	6200	62	100	2010
	13.28	6520	134.6	18.02	167.56	13.79	6880	11.3	980	1670	12.78	6440	64	100	1920

i think my maffs knackered, lets see if you guys can pick up any other problems? cheers in advance

Steely · Nov 13, 2010

your maf is about 5-8% down i'd say,

what intake filter you got on it?

LEE69 · Nov 13, 2010

168.08/0.8= 210 bhp ish

armo · Nov 13, 2010

just a cheap **** twin cone mate, was only rated to 200 bhp on the site i got it from? you reckon filter is holding it back or maf is on the way out

armo · Nov 13, 2010

LEE69 said:
168.08/0.8= 210 bhp ish

i got 201 on the times by 1.2? you reckon thats about right lee

LEE69 · Nov 13, 2010

It's only a rough guide you can also use x 1.25 though
Have you got the standard air box to compare it against?

armo · Nov 13, 2010

nah i binned it when i got the new filters as i didnt want it lying about the house, iv always wondered since the map if the filter is holding the car back, but iv lately started wondering if the maf is damaged as the filter is oiled like a k&n

does everything else look ok as i really have no idea? just noticed actual boost hasnt come up

LEE69 · Nov 13, 2010

Filter might be holding it back, also the maf might be oiled up like you say.

armo · Nov 13, 2010

what you reckon, order a jetex and wd40 the maf to get the **** out of it?

LEE69 · Nov 13, 2010

Jetex yes, you need http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=28994 to clean the maf, even then it might not work, or even might damage the maf.

armo · Nov 13, 2010

i was gonna go jetex in the first place but i prefered the look of the one i bought lol, mint theres a maplins round the corner, will wd knack it like? i used it on my astra coupe and it seemed to do the trick

LEE69 · Nov 13, 2010

WD40 is oil based i think, i know i wouldn't use it myslef on a maf.

armo · Nov 13, 2010

il stick to that maplin stuff then, looks like im ordering a jetex

allh2k · Nov 13, 2010

I cleaned my maf n killed it though i was a bit over eager with the cleaning got a pierburg off ebay n managed to break my boost pipe bla bla still not running right

allh2k · Nov 13, 2010

O yeah i used the ipa stuff from maplins

TRUMPY · Nov 13, 2010

LEE69 said:
It's only a rough guide you can also use x 1.25 though
Have you got the standard air box to compare it against?

x 1.25 is for the LCR isnt it lee?

TRUMPY · Nov 13, 2010

armo said:

First time logs i need you to check for me if you would be so kind fellas, not happy with what im getting through maf at all, not sure if iv logged right values but i did what i though was relevant, can do more if needs be. Car is stage 1 with intake, 007p and N249 bypass running super unleaded

This is a 3rd gear run

Code:

Saturday	13	November	2010	16:17:39											
06A 906 032 HN 		1.8L R4/5VT         0002													
															
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0.01	2760	115.8	12.58	67	0.4	2920	140.6	2310	1900	0.8	3120	27	87.5	2260
	1.22	3400	184.2	21.08	121.03	1.71	3720	185	2230	2440	2.11	3920	30	76.9	2160
	2.62	4200	185	23.12	141.19	3.12	4520	163.2	2230	2090	3.53	4720	35	92.2	2340
	3.93	4960	166.9	22.1	158.61	4.32	5160	162.4	2190	2190	4.73	5360	39	85.5	2130
	5.25	5600	151.9	20.06	162.83	5.74	5840	149.6	2210	2000	6.14	6000	45	100	2010
	6.54	6160	141.4	18.7	167.28	6.96	6320	137.6	2250	1960	7.45	6600	50	0	2540

These 2 are 4th gear runs

Code:

Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
	Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
0.01	2960	165.4	23.8	76.14	0.5	3120	167.7	2290	2330	0.99	3280	26	71	2290
1.41	3400	167.7	22.44	107	1.81	3560	168.4	2200	2180	2.21	3720	29	72.9	2210
2.7	3880	166.2	21.42	120.64	3.1	4040	172.2	2270	2330	3.52	4160	32	76.1	2200
3.92	4320	162.4	21.76	139.19	4.32	4480	160.9	2230	2230	4.72	4600	36	79.2	2140
5.14	4760	161.7	21.76	146.06	5.52	4880	156.4	2180	2120	5.93	5040	39	81.2	2140
6.34	5160	159.4	21.76	156.94	6.85	5320	159.4	2200	2150	7.33	5480	45	85.1	2130
7.74	5600	152.6	20.4	164.39	8.14	5720	151.1	2220	2070	8.54	5800	50	100	2030
8.96	5920	146.6	19.72	166.25	9.36	6040	145.9	2230	1990	9.76	6080	54	100	2000
10.16	6200	140.6	18.7	164.92	10.67	6280	138.3	2270	1990	11.17	6320	58	100	1990

Code:

Saturday	13	November	2010	16:21:30											
06A 906 032 HN 		1.8L R4/5VT         0002													
															
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'118			
		Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost		Engine Speed	Air Temp In	Boost Dut Cyc	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME	700-6800 RPM	<=110 C	0-100% 	<=1800 mbar
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar
	0.4	3120	150.4	16.32	97.78	0.81	3280	175.9	2260	2450	0.02	3040	26	100	1530
	1.69	3600	168.4	21.08	98.28	2.11	3720	174.4	2250	2350	1.29	3480	30	71.4	2540
	3.01	4000	170.7	21.42	134.75	3.41	4200	174.4	2270	2500	2.61	3920	33	72.2	2250
	4.32	4480	173.7	24.82	150.06	4.72	4600	170.7	2230	2390	3.82	4320	36	86.3	2120
	5.52	4840	163.2	23.12	154.22	5.94	4960	165.4	2200	2310	5.13	4720	40	85.9	2030
	6.83	5240	160.9	21.76	160.11	7.23	5360	157.9	2230	2180	6.43	5120	45	89.8	2240
	8.04	5560	154.9	21.08	164.39	8.44	5640	151.1	2240	2120	7.64	5440	50	94.9	2160
	9.26	5800	149.6	20.74	165.44	9.66	5880	147.4	2250	2020	8.86	5720	54	100	2100
	10.44	6040	142.9	19.38	164.92	10.86	6120	142.1	2260	2020	10.06	5960	58	100	2010
	11.77	6280	139.8	18.7	168.08	12.27	6360	138.3	2290	1960	11.37	6200	62	100	2010
	13.28	6520	134.6	18.02	167.56	13.79	6880	11.3	980	1670	12.78	6440	64	100	1920

i think my maffs knackered, lets see if you guys can pick up any other problems? cheers in advance

looks like you figures are back to front mate when logged, mine is 130 g/s at 3200rpm then increases all the way through to 185 g/s at 6760rpm strange

Murdered LCR · Nov 13, 2010

Never use wd40 on the maf lol well only if you want to brake it

armo · Nov 14, 2010

mine starts at 97.78 rising too 168.08 peak doesnt it? are you reading the percentage of engine load trumpy? think they have come up slightly out of line on the thread? Dan i take your point lol, im really not sure i dare try and clean it, as if it isnt broke im risking costing myself alot of money, might try the jetex first see what happens

TRUMPY · Nov 14, 2010

armo said:
mine starts at 97.78 rising too 168.08 peak doesnt it? are you reading the percentage of engine load trumpy? think they have come up slightly out of line on the thread? Dan i take your point lol, im really not sure i dare try and clean it, as if it isnt broke im risking costing myself alot of money, might try the jetex first see what happens

thought it was air mass in (G/S) you need to look at :shrug:

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