Hawkesybaby
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I think remap to remap a petrol will always see a diesel go past it
130 to 1.8t i mean
Each to there own matey
130 to 1.8t i mean
Each to there own matey
fuel costs etc 1.8t vs 1.9tdi
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Lol from experience i can say otherwise, but as you say, each to their own. If diesel was where performance was at the race tracks would be full of diesels. On the flip side if you want a more frugal drive and don't mind the noise, diesel is the more sensible option.
rocking a 1.9tdi pd100 and I got and average of 50.4mpg over 520 miles of mixed driving
All depends what you want....
A remap on a diesel will be quicker than a remap on a 1.8t.... torque is what you want people
not sure about that after i had my 1.8t remapped it was like a completely different car after i got my pd150 on my old car remapped i was really let down by the comparable difference it made to the 1.8t.
that is the main reason ive not got the pd160 i now own remapped.
figures aside the 1.8t is better in every way other than running cost.
as has been said each to there own.
In truth your totally right on tick over where the 1.9 tdi sounds like a tractor. However I will defend the lump when you boot it as I think it sounds fairly good. Never going to be a V6 roar but for a oil burner its not bad.
This ones a bit tuned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj2fYfcPNNk
Chino has a point, I'm in a pd160 and looking at going stage 1 but stage 2 isn't even on the horizon as I don't have a spare 700 - 900 for an uprated clutch to get the car moving lol - let alone the injectors, turbo uprated cooler, uprated pipes and whatever else you break along the way.
That being said, diesel is great fun, but then I am bias as i like torque over top end speed.
Mpg, tax and insurance were what persuaded me in the end.
That being said, diesel is great fun, but then I am bias as i like torque over top end speed.
Mpg, tax and insurance were what persuaded me in the end.
Im with Lavery on this. I've barely had my PD 160 cupra a week and absolutely love it.
Ive had a Skoda fabia VRs before and the cupra is similar, except faster, revs much better and stronger, has a much nicer cabin and instruments/controls, better wheels, and definatly looks nicer. Build quality appears better as well which supprises me!
I went for a diesel over the petrol as our other car (the 5 door family one that the wife drives mostly) is a moderately tuned Leon cupra K1 with about 320 bhp. It is an awesome car and has been ultra reliable in the 3 years we have had it, but it dosent have a huge deal of torque until your half way through the rev range and the gears have always felt too short to me, a feeling that gets worse if you up the power of the engine!
The PD 160 is far more of a relaxed car to drive when your not ragging it as the combination of bags of low down torque and long gears makes the power effortless. Up to about 50 mph on twisty roads, she couldn't really get away from me either as I discovered a couple of days ago.
I cant compare it directly to a petrol IBIZA cupra as I don't have one, but it really depends on what you like. I find I get to use more of the performance more of the time in a diesel, but for outright maximum performance and track days a petrol turbo will be better, it just depends how ofter you drive like that. For me that's probably less than 5% of the time, so I opted for the useable torque and rediculiousy cheap running costs of the diesel.
You seriously drive 3 miles each way? Get a bloody bike you lazy sod
I have..... a motorbike hahah
Good choice.. The running costs of the cupra in comparison to my old 106 are +£20 per month. For an extra 100bhp that's a bargain.
Bit young to be looking at 1.8 Turbo's, a 100bhp fabia is too quick
not everyone drives into obsticles in car parks
I too love the mid range punch - very useable power. anywhere between 45 & 55 mpg. I do think the tdi lump is a little heavy over the front end.
I'm not bothering on reading this thread just from seeing this I'd say steer well clear! Injectors and dpf failure are also rife amongst diesels doing silly journeys! At this time of year takes a good 10/15 miles before mines even at operating temperature and you will have more hastle than you want with that 12 mile commute! I'd stick with petrol! To be honest, I stuck with petrol until my 80 mile commute turned to 180 miles, that's when you need a diesel
I'm not bothering on reading this thread just from seeing this I'd say steer well clear! Injectors and dpf failure are also rife amongst diesels doing silly journeys! At this time of year takes a good 10/15 miles before mines even at operating temperature and you will have more hastle than you want with that 12 mile commute! I'd stick with petrol! To be honest, I stuck with petrol until my 80 mile commute turned to 180 miles, that's when you need a diesel
the mk4's don't have a dpf so that would never have been a problem, and the injectors are completely fine, I know many people with the 1.9tdi who have never had problems on short journeys. a little blast to clear the pipes is all that is needed every so often.
totally agree with your point about not needing a diesel until you do a lot of miles, but 80 miles commute a week would make me choose a diesel over petrol
My injectors comment was based solely on several a3 owners who have suffered due to short journeys, plus from what I see of all the poor diesels local to me who pootle around town puffing black smoke out at every gear change
...as for dpf I was informed by revo and shark when I enquired about mapping that mine was fitted with a dpf(?) ...The 80 mile commute I was enjoying In a 20mpg jag and 24 mpg FTO lol, now the 180 miles a day sucks as I vowed I'd never go diseasal lol but the FR has been a gem and made for all those motorway miles
My injectors comment was based solely on several a3 owners who have suffered due to short journeys, plus from what I see of all the poor diesels local to me who pootle around town puffing black smoke out at every gear change
The 80 mile commute I was enjoying In a 20mpg jag and 24 mpg FTO lol, now the 180 miles a day sucks as I vowed I'd never go diseasal lol but the FR has been a gem and made for all those motorway miles
I drive 3miles to work and 3 back week days in my tdi FR with no trouble, but at the weekends I rip the arse out of it so probably cancels out!
I do sometimes wish I had opted for the petrol but I bought the car expecting a 150 mile weekly commute but I got a job very close to home In the end.nah the mk4 beeza don't have a dpf, 100% sure buddy!
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