have your brand new GDS3's gripped in wet weather?

[Phil_beeza]

these new yokohama parada 2 i got recommended, physically feels really stable, but i was pulling away onto a roundabout being "moderately enthusiastic" and got a nasty 2 second spin, then away ok.

the salesguy said i was in catch 22

i either wait and see if once they are broken in the tyres start gripping, but by then if they don't, it's too late to change.

i have a voice saying GDS3's in my head.

have your brand new GDS3's gripped in wet weather pull off straight away?

 

[devonmikeyboy]

No thought about it get the F1`s mate.

 

[dozza.13]

Or toyo t1r's, they grip really well in the wet!

 

[Poverty]

you can change tyres once they have been on the car!?

 

[Phil_beeza]

yeah it will be possible he said

i just have to decide whether to gamble with them getting 'worn in' and staring to grip, or just going for the gds3's. £75 over £700 to get gds3's

just wondered if other ppl#s gds3's grip straight off. in which case i'll get them or if gds3's also need a 100 miles 'wearing in' etc

 

[GrayT]

I don't think you will ever get the best from a tyre until it has worn in a bit. That said there was a very noticeable improvement when I changed to the F1's, even from new. But, any tyre will have its limits whatever the conditions. Roads can be very greasy at this time of year and if you floor it in such conditions any tyre will lose grip - the circumstances you describe are a classic.

I do rate the F1's very highly. The only time they haven't performed for me was trying to haul my V5 lump up a snowy hill.

 

[Phil_beeza]

im sure it shouldnt have spun with the amount i gave the gas tho

 

[Phil_beeza]

what do ppl think of having GDS3's on the front and different types on the rear, have ppl found the handling is bad like that?

 

[SHADY-NINJA]

mine feels as good as the continental sport i previously had

 

[keefy]

First off, tyres can take a long time to bed in. I had some Vredestein Hi-Trac's on my Fiesta that felt horrid for about 500 miles. I had to drive everywhere really carefully and it felt that all four corners of the car were doing different things. Suddenly, they seemed to get to a point where they were doing there job and from then on were great tyres. I think Vredestein have stopped making them now, but they won AutoExpresses tyre test 2 or 3 yrs on the trot. So, you'll probably need more than 100 miles to get a decent idea of how good the tyres are.

I wouldn't recommend different tyres front and back. Particularly for 'enthusiastic' driving. You'll end up with potentially dangerous/unpredictable handling.
Presumably though you would only do that to save a bit of cash.........? At the end of the day if you want high performance tyres that grip you need to spend the money. If you can't afford them, then get cheaper tyres but don't expect the same levels of grip.....

You also have to remember that if your wheels aren't straight when pulling off (as they perhaps won't be on a roundabout) then they won't be providing the same level of grip as pulling off in a straight line.

 

[vwpologti]

uniroyal rainsports grip very very well in the wet and dry.

they take the piss out of toyos ect..... imo

 

[Kam]

First off, tyres can take a long time to bed in. I had some Vredestein Hi-Trac's on my Fiesta that felt horrid for about 500 miles. I had to drive everywhere really carefully and it felt that all four corners of the car were doing different things. Suddenly, they seemed to get to a point where they were doing there job and from then on were great tyres. I think Vredestein have stopped making them now, but they won AutoExpresses tyre test 2 or 3 yrs on the trot. So, you'll probably need more than 100 miles to get a decent idea of how good the tyres are.

I wouldn't recommend different tyres front and back. Particularly for 'enthusiastic' driving. You'll end up with potentially dangerous/unpredictable handling.
Presumably though you would only do that to save a bit of cash.........? At the end of the day if you want high performance tyres that grip you need to spend the money. If you can't afford them, then get cheaper tyres but don't expect the same levels of grip.....

You also have to remember that if your wheels aren't straight when pulling off (as they perhaps won't be on a roundabout) then they won't be providing the same level of grip as pulling off in a straight line.

Yeah, I always give new tyres a lot of stick when they go on the front to scrub them up.

I agree with Uniroyals being good in the wet but I find them very noisy due to the aggressive tread pattern.

 

[Phil_beeza]

yeah different front and back would be for the £ saving on 2 tyres

I am thinking that seriuosly, making a <10k car as safe as possible is worth the extra £75

argh. there arent many reviews of this yoko tyre yet.

i don't *absolutely* hoon it, but i do give it a bit sometimes..

just fuond this:

Dry surface - Now that the tyres are worn in the dry grip is prooving solid and progressive, tyre walls firm and fast directional changes give positive feedback that surpasses the soft emotionless Toyo's that my car previously ran. On limit driving isn't as good, the fast grip is strong but tyres break at higher speeds, nothing severe just a gentle slip into understeer easily corrected with less throttle. I would however prefer a more aggressive initial grip and oversteer. Damp-to-wet - a greasy road is no fun for a tyre and the Parada spec2 really struggles with damp oily surfaces. Again as with dry peformance theres no snapping or sudden loss of grip just more along the lines of 4 wheel drifts. Heavy rain - recent heavy rain has risen these tyres to a new level. You only have to look at the massive grooves cut into these tyres to realise why they aren't the best dry weather tyre - they excel in the wet. They actually feel like they produce as much grip in the wet as they do in the dry. The car changes direction very well, footing is strong and speed carried through the corners is so much better then the Toyo's, throw in excellent grip underbreaking and you have a very good tyre. The Parada Spec-2 is a very good all round tyre, it should be marketed as an intermidiate tyre which considering the changeable british weather is no bad thing - very good in the dry and excellent in the wet. For track use the tyre faired very well, I ran the fronts at 34 psi on a winter day and after about 10 laps on track they became to hot and traction reduced massively, I am however an aggressive/fast driver so if your less 'enthusiastic' around the tight bits you wont have a problem with these tyres. Wair on track was low, Yokohama always have made tough rubber

so seem good in everything except the conditions i spun in......mayb gentler driving needed for that