You just got to feed the LCR smoothly into the corners and its fine, also as discussed on here alot could be down to the shite Pirrelli's that come as standard.
LCR or CTR?
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I dont have a LCR but have a re-mapped leon cupra and I have had a play with a CTR and left it (motorway), at least with the LCR there is more potential for tuning then the CTR.
However the CTR from a start is pretty rapid but just does not have the torque of a LCR.
Got to be a LCR anyday for me
eagle F1's for grip around the twisties are good
However the CTR from a start is pretty rapid but just does not have the torque of a LCR.
Got to be a LCR anyday for me
eagle F1's for grip around the twisties are good
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Agreed I think from a standing start the CTR would have good chance as the torque on a remapped LCR can be a pain when it comes to traction, but hey let them think they have a chance 
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Well having had teh CTR and INtegra Type-R DC5 and now teh LCR you have to look at them as different animals. They LCR is easy to drive fast and it does handle reasonably well. The Honda's need to be driven hard to be fast. The CTR is a peach of a car and its handling will always beat the LCR. Dont be fooled by the torque blah blah, teh vtec works differently to turbo. Now, as for teh Integra now thats a diferent kettle of fish. With all 3 cars as standard it will whoop them in every department. Handling is in a different class and power at higher speeds is very impressive, the LCR would fall behind.
Then we have to throw in the equasion of tuning. The Honda's are expensive to tune and not much bang for your buck unlike the LCR. NOw ive just had mine chipped and am quite confident of leaving a Integra DC5 quite comfortably, although on a circuit i still think the ITR will win.
Horses for corses really. Comfort and ease of power vs stripped out racers.
Then we have to throw in the equasion of tuning. The Honda's are expensive to tune and not much bang for your buck unlike the LCR. NOw ive just had mine chipped and am quite confident of leaving a Integra DC5 quite comfortably, although on a circuit i still think the ITR will win.
Horses for corses really. Comfort and ease of power vs stripped out racers.
paulr602 said:
Have you driven both back to back? or driven an LCR at all?
Arrange a couple of test drives, only take up a day of your time max, book up well in advance and see if you can get an hour behind the whel of each
If your spend a few £000's surely it's worth it.........
paulr602 said:
No, as well as different springs and dampers etc the LCR is more Audi S3/TT front end and Golf Mk4 rear end. This means a different set up for the Anti-roll bars, carriers etc and the lower front strut brace fitted as standard to the LCR.
All the other Leons (AFAIK) except the LCR are Golf Mk4 set up front and rear.
LCR has a quicker steering rack too..
I'll second all that...dobber said:
People who get carried away with all this 'NO TORQUE' bollock$, know little or nothing IMO..
The CTR may only have 145lb/ft, but it's delivered in a totally different way to an LCR (ie, all the way to 8500rpm)... A standard LCR will NOT pull away from a CTR, unless the driver is crap (which is often the case).. Upto 100mph, they are simular (225 LCR that is), but after that, the CTR will start to edge away.. Reason I know, is i've done 100,000 miles in my old CTR and 35,000 in my LCR.. And have had MANY comparison tests with the two..
Once remapped, the LCR will be the one pulling away all the time.. But not by as much as some people think...
cheers for your opinions everyone.
Ive driven the ctr, liked it, was fast but as ben said the power felt very linear......I maybe expected more of a sudden boost but it didnt feel like that for me. I wonder if i just become used to the power of my bike so much that its going to take something to really quick to give me a kick in the backside. Also felt the CTR was allover the road regarding bumpy surfaces, very light and didnt feel fully in control of where i was going when accelerating fast over the bumps. Bloody UK roads!
The problem with test driving an LCR is trying to find one to test drive! rediculous how few seat dealers there are, by me anyway. Nearest Liverpool is 5 miles away after that warrington, preston, crewe I think, all miles away, not like I can just pop there in 10 mins. Would be good to test back to back but that will be impossoble.
Anyway I'll keep on deliberating
Ive driven the ctr, liked it, was fast but as ben said the power felt very linear......I maybe expected more of a sudden boost but it didnt feel like that for me. I wonder if i just become used to the power of my bike so much that its going to take something to really quick to give me a kick in the backside. Also felt the CTR was allover the road regarding bumpy surfaces, very light and didnt feel fully in control of where i was going when accelerating fast over the bumps. Bloody UK roads!
The problem with test driving an LCR is trying to find one to test drive! rediculous how few seat dealers there are, by me anyway. Nearest Liverpool is 5 miles away after that warrington, preston, crewe I think, all miles away, not like I can just pop there in 10 mins. Would be good to test back to back but that will be impossoble.
Anyway I'll keep on deliberating
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Ben CTR said:Ah right!!! End of thread then....
lol this has been answered so many times though,
ctr feels more sporty but thats it, lcr comes with climate, 18s, brembos, a turbo, more tunable, isnt common as a saxo, etc etc, the steering in a type r is electric and you dont feel connected to the road, you have to rag the living hell out of it to go, ac is an extra as with fogs where its standard with the cheaper lcr.
the list goes on.
but i always wanted a silver one lol
oh and u used to have a ctr what do u have now lol
RickC, I passed your purple beast some time ago while it was parked... I must say sir, you have a cracking motor
Yeah... But I still respect them very much. The LCR is better for my job (with the miles I do), but the CTR was alot more fun and slightly quicker in standard form.. I'd have both sat on my drive if I could...
It all depends on what you're after in a car.. The Type R heritage is about racing.. Hence the reason it doesn't have all the mod cons as standard.. the options there if ya need it at the end of the day.. But as standard, it has a £2,000 cheaper list price than the LCR.. So horses foir courses really..
It all depends on what you're after in a car.. The Type R heritage is about racing.. Hence the reason it doesn't have all the mod cons as standard.. the options there if ya need it at the end of the day.. But as standard, it has a £2,000 cheaper list price than the LCR.. So horses foir courses really..
Ben CTR said:
When you say the civic is quicker in standard form, it what context?
I'd only say its quicker around bends,anywhere else its beaten by the Leon
I think the thread is over, i also think its hard if you put a question on a SEAT forum of Leon Cupra R or Civic type R, your going to get slightly biased views.
Has the same question been put on a Honda forum?
My answer....It'd be the Leon R everytime
Tom
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NO!!!As i've said before.. I've had both.. Had my CTR for 3 years and did over 100,000 miles in it.. I've now had my LCR for nearly a year and a half and 35,000 miles.. Plus I had them both at the same time for about a month as they overlapped. My CTR was identical to my mates Modded Integra Type R from 0-150mph TESTED! (Many times
) and no matter how hard I try in standard form, it's always the same result in the LCR when up against the ITR.. Similar to 90-100, but after that he starts to pull away and ends up about 4-5 car lengths ahead by 140+ (all done on runway obviously).. So I think I can say I have a pretty good position to compare the two and give a good unbiased opinion.. Don't you? Or have you had more experience of the 2.. Or are you just going off 0-60 figures from somewhere.. Mind you, saying that... I've got just about every road test done on both cars (Evo, Autocar, Top Gear, Auto Express, etc etc.) And you don't need me to tell you which one has the best figures ie.. 0-100 etc..
Don't get me wrong mate.. I love my LCR to bits and have missed it like hell the last 3 weeks whilst it's been in the Bodyshop.. But I also miss my CTR too and it just annoys me sometimes, when some people think just cause Honda's have low torque figures, they are crap and will get pasted by a turbo charged car, no matter what... That's not the case, believe me!!!
You wanna see my mates ITR.. It's a 1.8 16v Engine with probably about 135lb/ft of Torque.. But I struggle to see he off properly.. And i've got more than twice the Torque...
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