N75 valve & boost probs

cupra-c_ya

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where is the N249 pabs?

im going to change my spring in my dv tomorrow, if no luck then just try the std bosch valve.

put old N75 back on, if just the old N75 valve makes it better but not cured like before I will send my new one back, scratch my head, have a think and then scratch my head again, bloody cars hey!
 

Russellg911

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Pabs: my car has been vag-com'd twice.

1st time was about a 15 min drive - car was fine that day and nothing odd found.

2nd time was about an hours drive - again, car was ok that day and no codes. Both times MAF gave good readings circa 190g/s - 196g/s.

:(
 

cupra-c_ya

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you tried this different N75 valve yet?

std dump valve as well?

* im sure you said on a different thread you have had your dv checked by someone, have you leak tested it yourself? if std bosch it could split and leak
 
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Russellg911

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Std DV...

Gonna try and borrow CupraSteves N75 and see what happens.

I then plan to:

Change the coolant temp sensor for the green one.
Change the std DV to a 007

And if all that does nothing, I'm going to try and get booked in at JBS or something.
 

Pabs

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well russell, i've not heard or seen this problem on a standard car before, so perhaps if you get an answer it might be worth me looking into it too....

N249 is another dv control valve thingy - do a search on here for it and lots will be revealed - theres about a 20page thread on it regarding how to bypass it......

Good luck ;)
 

Pabs

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cupra-c ya - i'd get your ECU number (should only need the first 3 digits i think) and ask Revo by email/phone if there have been any updates for their code.

To be honest, I asked ref my stage 2 map, and there was 1 update last august i think (i got it installed in may last year) but the updates only fix switching/uploading issues and not performance.
 

Russellg911

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cupra-c_ya said:
you tried this different N75 valve yet?

std dump valve as well?

* im sure you said on a different thread you have had your dv checked by someone, have you leak tested it yourself? if std bosch it could split and leak


Well, a guy tested my DV using some kind of trigger operated pump device? He said that it was ok....but I assume by that he meant there were no leaks? Surely that test wouldn't tell if the DV was prone to sticking??
 

cupra-c_ya

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I would test it yourself, easy to do by using a pen to push the piston up, put your finger on the nipple on the top, if the piston slides down then it is leaking.
also check that when you take your finger off the top it slides down nice, it might stick when coming down.

I have changed my dv back to my std bosch and it seems to drive better, checked my forge dv and it is not leaking i think but when I put my finger on the top nipple and let go of the piston it does drop abit initially??
 

Pabs

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piston vs diaphragm can be part of the issue......

Trust me mate, i've been asking myself the same questions for ages. Never have figured out what the problem is, it just seemed to get better with a new N75.... at the moment i'm a little worried with the running of my car again - DEFINATELY need a tb alignment as the pedal seems to be all over the place - might be due to the fact the battery was disconnected recently and i don't think one was done afterwards.
 

cupra-c_ya

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I have done a TBA thru vag com but might get the TB cleaned at some point to see if that helps the problem, never ending story continues...........
will get some logs done soon on maf, N75 duty etc

* what does a DV relocation kit do, what is the benefits?
 

cupra-c_ya

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Hi martyn, when you have got chance if you could look at these logs for 002,003, 020 & 115.

I have changed the spring in the forge dv to yellow, did notice that it was a lot smoother then the green and did not fluctuate so much, all look o.k? n75 valve look to be o.k?


Code:
Group A:	'003				Group B:
		Idle speed	Air mass in	Throt Angle	Ignit Angle
	TIME	700-820 rpm	2.0-4.5 g/s	0.2-4.0%	0-12 BTDC	TIME
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °BTDC	STAMP
	0.01	2480	58.22	99.2	3	
	0.42	2560	0	12.9	6.8	
	0.82	2560	17.25	11.8	26.3	
	1.22	2640	49.17	73.3	24	
	1.62	2720	66.03	100	18	
	2.11	2920	95.72	100	6	
	2.53	3120	116.06	100	1.5	
	3.02	3360	122.67	100	2.3	
	3.42	3520	128.86	100	1.5	
	3.94	3760	135.75	100	0.8	
	4.34	3920	139.17	100	0	
	4.74	4080	149.5	100	0.8	
	5.14	4280	153.03	100	0.8	
	5.54	4440	160.83	100	0.8	
	5.94	4640	167.56	100	1.5	
	6.34	4800	168.44	100	1.5	
	6.75	4920	172.5	100	1.5	
	7.15	5080	175.92	100	2.3	
	7.55	5200	176.22	100	3	
	7.97	5320	174.75	100	3.8	
	8.37	5480	176.81	100	4.5	
	8.86	5640	177.53	100	5.3	
	9.26	5760	177.89	100	7.5	
	9.68	5840	179.03	100	8.3	
	10.17	5960	180.97	99.2	7.5	
	10.57	5960	25.22	4.3	12.8	
	10.97	4600	67.58	37.3	29.3	
	11.47	4680	163.42	98.4	5.3	
	11.87	4760	168.44	100	0	
	12.27	4840	168.5	99.6	0	
	12.69	4880	169.56	100	0.8	
	13.18	4960	167.11	100	1.5	
	13.58	5040	164.92	100	2.3	
	13.98	5120	167.56	100	3.8	
	14.5	5200	169.14	99.6	3.8



Code:
Monday	27	March	2006	20:03:32		
06A 906 032 DE	1.8L R4/5VT         0001		
						
	Group A:	'002				Group B:
		Idle speed	Engine load	Inj. period	Air mass in
	TIME	700-820 rpm	15-25%	2.0 - 4.0 ms	2.0-4.5 g/s	TIME
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP
	0.61	2800	181.2	17	95.94	
	1.1	2920	181.2	17.68	97.08	
	1.5	3000	182.7	18.36	107.25	
	1.9	3120	182.7	18.02	111.28	
	2.32	3200	184.2	18.36	112.31	
	2.81	3320	185.7	18.36	115.56	
	3.21	3400	186.5	18.36	125.78	
	3.73	3560	185.7	18.02	123.89	
	4.13	3640	182.7	17.68	128.11	
	4.53	3720	185.7	18.02	133.86	
	4.93	3800	183.5	18.02	133.28	
	5.33	3880	183.5	18.02	137.33	
	5.73	3960	185	18.36	140.61	
	6.13	4040	182.7	18.02	141	
	6.54	4120	184.2	18.36	146.06	
	6.94	4200	182.7	18.36	145.36	
	7.34	4280	182.7	18.36	148.83	
	7.84	4400	182	18.36	151.14	
	8.24	4440	179.7	18.02	153.94	
	8.65	4520	181.2	18.02	155.92	
	9.15	4640	180.5	18.02	159.69	
	9.55	4680	180.5	18.02	161.19	
	10.06	4800	178.2	18.02	165.14	
	10.46	4840	178.2	18.02	165.67	
	10.86	4920	177.4	18.02	164.69	
	11.36	5000	178.2	18.36	168.44	
	11.77	5040	175.9	18.36	168.61	
	12.27	5120	173.7	17.68	169.56	
	12.67	5200	172.9	18.02	169.33	
	13.08	5240	172.9	17.68	172.5	
	13.58	5320	170.7	17.68	171.86	
	13.98	5400	168.4	19.04	172.67	
	14.4	5440	166.2	18.7	171.03	
	14.8	5520	165.4	18.7	176.5	
	15.2	5560	163.2	18.7	174.03	
	15.6	5600	163.9	18.7	175.92	
	16	5680	163.2	18.7	176.36	
	16.4	5720	162.4	18.7	177.61	
	16.8	5760	163.2	18.7	178.44	
	17.21	5800	160.9	18.7	175.69	
	17.61	5880	160.9	18.7	179.03	
	18.01	5880	160.2	18.36	179.03	
	18.41	5920	159.4	18.02	179.03	
	18.81	5960	159.4	18.02	182.08	
	19.21	6000	160.2	18.02	182.39	
	19.61	5440	9.8	1.36	22.97	
	20.11	4840	129.3	15.64	146.06


Code:
Monday	27	March	2006	20:15:27		
06A 906 032 DE	1.8L R4/5VT         0001		
						
	Group A:	'020				Group B:
		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME
Marker	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF	STAMP
	0.01	0	0	0	0	
	0.4	0	0	0	0	
	0.81	1.5	2.3	1.5	1.5	
	1.31	0.8	1.5	0.8	1.5	
	1.71	0.8	1.5	0	0.8	
	2.11	0	0.8	0	0.8	
	2.51	0	0.8	0	0



Code:
Monday	27	March	2006	20:17:15		
06A 906 032 DE	1.8L R4/5VT         0001		
						
	Group A:	'115				Group B:
		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Spec. Boost	Actual Boost
	TIME	700-6800 RPM	15-150%	990-1800 mbar	<=1800 mbar	TIME
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP
	0.53	2040	52.6	980	1070	
	0.94	2080	53.4	1160	1090	
	1.44	2240	97.7	2080	1280	
	1.84	2440	116.5	2150	1530	
	2.35	2680	141.4	2220	1850	
	2.75	2880	168.4	2230	2130	
	3.15	3120	189.5	2240	2350	
	3.64	3360	189.5	2240	2280	
	4.04	3560	189.5	2260	2250	
	4.46	3800	189.5	2260	2270	
	4.86	4000	187.2	2270	2270	
	5.26	4240	186.5	2250	2270	
	5.76	4480	186.5	2230	2230	
	6.16	4680	185	2200	2170	
	6.57	4880	180.5	2170	2150	
	7.08	5120	178.2	2110	2100	
	7.58	5360	172.9	2030	2030	
	8.09	5560	166.2	1970	1960	
	8.57	5760	160.9	1930	1910	
	8.99	5960	160.2	1910	1890	
	9.5	6120	157.1	1880	1860	
	9.9	6200	109.8	980	1740
 

Pabs

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May 3, 2004
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IMO, Do NOT bother with a DV relocation kit - waste of money and actually gave me problems, rather than solve them.
It just takes the feed for the DV from the intercooler hose, rather than by the turbo - gives you cooler/colder air to use hence make the DV more reliable (not really an issue with a forge 007P) and supposedly a better response. Some people have said good things, lots of others have said bad. I'm with the bad on this one - caused me more problems than I originally had, so sold it on to someone who might benefit from it instead.
 
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