looks nice i have to say, i hope they make the cupra as per the bocenegra as i will be down the dealers pronto

problem is i now have a dilema, get a really nice motor now or hold off for that one. hmm lol
 
the engines seat are offering do suck for the ibiza currently. Really makes you wonder what they have being spending all their development billions on. Think VAG have been concentrating on making great larger capacity engines too much. However in the future it looks like all of VAG's engines will be utilising forced induction in one way or another.

Whatcar's review on the ibiza was a great chassis, but really crap engines. On the engine front whatcar gave the ibiza a dismal 2 stars :(
 
Whatcar's review on the ibiza was a great chassis, but really crap engines. On the engine front whatcar gave the ibiza a dismal 2 stars :(

You read the engine specs in the Mk5 brochure and its enough to make you weep. A poor scan, and in Spanish but look closely at the 0-60 times. You will need to click the image to view, then select FULL SIZE under the RHS of the image in the next page.

 
You read the engine specs in the Mk5 brochure and its enough to make you weep. A poor scan, and in Spanish but look closely at the 0-60 times. You will need to click the image to view, then select FULL SIZE under the RHS of the image in the next page.


Its just a relly crap move on VAG's behalf. Here we have a brand which is meant to be VAG's sporty brand, and with the press release talking about being sporting, coupe and performance only for them to lumbar us with such crap engine choices. I also dont see how they have managed to make a lighter car, that is slower to 62mph than the outgoing heavier model with the same engine :banned:


Perhaps such a reception will be a good thing in the future for the ibiza as SEAT set about to put things right.
 
You know what I was thinking about this last night and the 1.6 does actually make sense. Look at ford with the zetec-s. Thats a 1.6 with like 103hp I believe and sold fairly well for ford, so why shouldnt it for SEAT? I always thought there was a gap missing between the 1.4 petrol and the 1.8 FR.
 
The 1.6 fsi would have been a better choice than this 1.6. BUT that's being phased out out for the 1.4tsi which is on how many months back order. I'll just hope that these are a fay cry from the fr and cupra. As poverty said there has been a huuuuge gap between the normal petrols and the fr and cupra. Maybe it's the same this time... well we can hope. :p Anyone have any info on the fabia vrs as i'd expect that to pretty much be the fr as it was with the last fabia and the fr tdi.
 
Anyone have any info on the fabia vrs as i'd expect that to pretty much be the fr as it was with the last fabia and the fr tdi.

Stolen from Autocar last month...

The next Skoda Fabia vRS will have a turbocharged petrol engine, not a diesel.

The Czech hot hatch, which Skoda chairman Reinhard Jung predicted would arrive “within two years”, will use the group’s 1.4-litre TSI unit.

“We have the opportunity to bring it up to 174 horsepower but we have not decided the final output,” said Jung.

There had been concern that the change of fuel might compromise the appeal of the car, compared with its fast but frugal 50mpg-plus diesel-powered predecessor, but a Skoda insider said: “With UK diesel prices climbing it could be a timely move. It takes ever higher mileages to recoup the cost of a diesel model plus the high pump prices.”

The new model should exploit the Fabia’s return to world rallying in the S2000 division. In 2006 the vRS accounted for 18% of UK Fabia hatchback sales
 
Stolen from Autocar last month...

The next Skoda Fabia vRS will have a turbocharged petrol engine, not a diesel.

The Czech hot hatch, which Skoda chairman Reinhard Jung predicted would arrive “within two years”, will use the group’s 1.4-litre TSI unit.

“We have the opportunity to bring it up to 174 horsepower but we have not decided the final output,” said Jung.

There had been concern that the change of fuel might compromise the appeal of the car, compared with its fast but frugal 50mpg-plus diesel-powered predecessor, but a Skoda insider said: “With UK diesel prices climbing it could be a timely move. It takes ever higher mileages to recoup the cost of a diesel model plus the high pump prices.”

The new model should exploit the Fabia’s return to world rallying in the S2000 division. In 2006 the vRS accounted for 18% of UK Fabia hatchback sales

In That case then, if the fabia vrs is possibly going to get a 174bhp tsi unit, id imagine the fr to have that and the cupra to have a 200 bhp unit? :funk:
 
Audi were saying on Le Mans coverage that they may return to petrol power next season as there had been significant gains in petrol based engine technologies and the diesel R10 car had successfully run its 3 year programme so would not return next year.
 
Audi were saying on Le Mans coverage that they may return to petrol power next season as there had been significant gains in petrol based engine technologies and the diesel R10 car had successfully run its 3 year programme so would not return next year.

Yep that and the fact I think they have found peugeot a little too close to them for comfort plus the porsches being faster than them.

I prefered the petrol lemans car anyway.
 
Why does skoda not offer diesel and petrol vRS models. Its a shame that the new fabia is still riding on the old chassis. It will be like a MK4 ibiza with a MK5 ibiza engine range lol.

Also the thing I wnat the most for the cupra is cool in your face colours like the such that Renault offers for its sports models.
 
Why does skoda not offer diesel and petrol vRS models. Its a shame that the new fabia is still riding on the old chassis. It will be like a MK4 ibiza with a MK5 ibiza engine range lol.

Also the thing I wnat the most for the cupra is cool in your face colours like the such that Renault offers for its sports models.

i want the cupra to be the bocenegra:p