Oil consumption 2.0 TDI FR

[SuperV8]

If you have the 150bhp version they dont burn oil.

The 184 cuna engine will at some point start burning oil and at low mileage, 50000 onwards.

The oil control rings are responsible for this. They are specced to be on the loose side and they don't seal as older engines from the VW range do. Its said to be a emission control thing.

VW state its normal to burn up to 1000ml per 1000 miles.

Common complaint and well documented on the forum.

They both have the same piston rings!

 

[SuperV8]

5W 30 will be fine although VW have now changed to 5w 40 apparently. Don't know why.

Please share your source for VAG changing 507 spec to 5w40?
Or is that a typo?
507 was 5w30 and later changed to 0w30.

 

[James_R]

The last time we were using 5w40s it was 505/505 01 spec for the non long life service regime PD engines.

We use Shell Helix Ultra in our pumps in the workshop, with the following specs/grades:

504/507 - 0w30s
508/509 - 0w20s

 

[SuperV8]

The last time we were using 5w40s it was 505/505 01 spec for the non long life service regime PD engines.

We use Shell Helix Ultra in our pumps in the workshop, with the following specs/grades:

504/507 - 0w30s
508/509 - 0w20s

There was a useful thread on EA288 oil consumption - but now its no longer found?
Any ideas where it went?

EA288 184hp 2.0 Diesel - Oil Burning - your findings?​

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/ea288-184hp-2-0-diesel-oil-burning-your-findings.478544/unread?new=1

 

[James_R]

Compo1 asked about that but I have no idea where it's gone.

 

[Mr Pig]

They both have the same piston ring

Please share your source for VAG changing 507 spec to 5w40?
Or is that a typo?
507 was 5w30 and later changed to 0w30.

5W40 is the oil I was given the last time I bought it, which was a few months ago. Prior to that I was given 0W30 and originally 5W30. It was 5W30 for years, I didn't question when they changed to 0W30 although I did think it was an odd change. When they handed my the 5W40 the last time I was in I asked what was going on? Guy said they'd realised they were getting too much wear, especially on older engines, with the 0W40 so they'd changed to 5W40. All of this was from Livingston Seat in Udingston. That's all I can tell you.

 

[Compo1]

They both have the same piston rings!

Less bhp less torque. Carn't be driven as hard.

 

[Compo1]

There was a useful thread on EA288 oil consumption - but now its no longer found?
Any ideas where it went?

EA288 184hp 2.0 Diesel - Oil Burning - your findings?​

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/ea288-184hp-2-0-diesel-oil-burning-your-findings.478544/unread?new=1

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Im told it was deleted by @piggasinnaris whos thread it was.

 

[SuperV8]

Im told it was deleted by @piggasinnaris whos thread it was.

That's a shame! why would he do that!!

 

[SuperV8]

Less bhp less torque. Carn't be driven as hard.

By that logic any remapped TDI is doomed
Oil control rings aren't seeing cylinder pressures.

They are a different design of oil control rings with lots of little holes (used by many other manufactures) - rather than the older type using a wavey center spring with relatively huge holes - for oil to drain back to the sump.
These tiny oil drain holes can get blocked (especially with the ridiculous extended oil drain intervals) - meaning the oil scraper rings can't get rid of the oil they are 'scraping'

The 150 & 184 do have different turbos - so if there really are more oil consumptions issues with the 184 then maybe this different turbo is to blame?

 

[SuperV8]

This is the oil consumption in the previous thread:

Name	L/1000miles	Mileage	Comments
VAG max allowance	0.80
No noticeable oil use	<0.10		If you did 10,000 per year and the low oil light didn't come on:
SuperV8	0.26	140,000
Compo1	0.25	69,000
SteveGSXR600K1	0.14	72,500
BenT	2.00	140,000	before rebuild with piston rings
BenT	0.83	140,000	before rebuild changing to 5w40
BenT	0.33	140,000	after rebuild with new piston rings
Saints92	0.28	140,000	from Skoda forum
Alvis	0.80	100,000	from Skoda forum with failed piston
MartinThorn	0.17	102,000
piggasinnaris	0.25	87,000
BillyCool	0.25	149,000