last couple posts missed the point of whole thread IT IS NOT the discs we are talking about!!! It is the hubs which sit between discs and wheel - these should not rust and have nothing to do with break performance!! It looks shite and SEAT should do something about it even if offering to paint them
Rusty Wheel Hubs
- Thread starter wheelwright
- Start date
these hubs and the disc are all one piece and not the hub,so the point hasnt been missed i dont think. quality or treatment of that surface should maybe be done for visual reasons but as for not fit for purpose etc....i wouldot hold my breath. If u put a bit of saint on u solve problem and tailored to your colour choice.
My new Cupra had rust on the hubs when I collected it new, with just delivery mileage on it.
This is simply not reasonable and VAG clearly have an issue. To an untrained eye, the wheels seem rusty, and that is a disgrace !
My girlfriends 5 year old Honda accord has no rust on its hubs because Honda have a proper black painted finish on them.
If SEAT are marketing a product with this defect then they should warn people before they buy it. Not much chance of that, is there ?
Right, so they need to get it sorted and change the coating / finishing process at the factories and offer owners of £20k cars to simply paint them, it's a very poor advert for this manufacturer if they refuse to and I support the watchdog option if they do this with me.
I will be on to SEAT UK Monday...
Watch this space !
This is simply not reasonable and VAG clearly have an issue. To an untrained eye, the wheels seem rusty, and that is a disgrace !
My girlfriends 5 year old Honda accord has no rust on its hubs because Honda have a proper black painted finish on them.
If SEAT are marketing a product with this defect then they should warn people before they buy it. Not much chance of that, is there ?
Right, so they need to get it sorted and change the coating / finishing process at the factories and offer owners of £20k cars to simply paint them, it's a very poor advert for this manufacturer if they refuse to and I support the watchdog option if they do this with me.
I will be on to SEAT UK Monday...
Watch this space !
It looks poor but it wont have any effect on its purpose. Disk hubs and drums have been rusting on cars for decades and Im sure it hasnt caused any significant problems, they have just been hiding behind bigger wheels. They get replaced every so many years anyway. Just takes a wire brush and some paint to sort it out.
Same goes for exhausts, those without chrome decor will have a rusty exhaust on show.
Same goes for exhausts, those without chrome decor will have a rusty exhaust on show.
Thats not good enough, I think...consider this:
As I mentioned earlier, if Honda and many other manufacturers can paint their hubs with an appropriate paint, - so should SEAT.
The fact that this company is offering wheels that clearly expose the poor finish on the wheel hubs means that they need to change the quality of the finishing.
If the bonnet were rusty would we still agree that "it works" and therefore still fit for purpose ? Of course not.
When a brand new car arrives with rusty wheel hubs, that's not wear and tear, thats faulty manufacturing.
I will be talking to SEAT UK Customer care tomorrow...
As I mentioned earlier, if Honda and many other manufacturers can paint their hubs with an appropriate paint, - so should SEAT.
The fact that this company is offering wheels that clearly expose the poor finish on the wheel hubs means that they need to change the quality of the finishing.
If the bonnet were rusty would we still agree that "it works" and therefore still fit for purpose ? Of course not.
When a brand new car arrives with rusty wheel hubs, that's not wear and tear, thats faulty manufacturing.
I will be talking to SEAT UK Customer care tomorrow...
tim1505
Guest
Excellent points above, went to my local Seat dealer yesterday and raised the issue with them again, they are going to raise the problem directly with
Seat Uk on my behalf.
They even agreed that it's poor show, and understand my gripe saying it doesn't look particularly good on a new car ! Along with that I've got some photos now to send off and I'm just in the middle of compiling a letter of complaint.
Both the manager and service guy looked at my cupra , they also mentioned that the 'hubs' are actually part of the brake disc ? They are apparently one piece although the 'hub' does not come into contact with the pads so then the rust builds up unlike the short term surface rust that builds up on the disc after washing the car say.
This has been covered a few times that they are a part of the disc, not a hub but a hub mount. Link: http://www.carpages.co.uk/news/news-images/rossini_disc_18_08_05.JPG
Shows the ,make up of the disc.
Shows the ,make up of the disc.
I reckon the only real option is to replace them with aftermarket ones, when they are knackered of course. But most people on here spend a small fortune on swapping bits anyhow so whats another £100 on new discs? You can get much smarter ones too, like cross drilled or something
Mine fortunately are ok at the moment (only 4000 miles)
Its very unlikely that Seat will ever back down, all disks seem to rust after a while (not as fast as ours granted) but are they`re not as noticible due to larger wheel centres that cover most of the hub part of the disc up
Mine fortunately are ok at the moment (only 4000 miles)
Its very unlikely that Seat will ever back down, all disks seem to rust after a while (not as fast as ours granted) but are they`re not as noticible due to larger wheel centres that cover most of the hub part of the disc up
Hammerite smooth or similar high temp paint if you wish, something that kills rust or goes on easy.
beeby
Guest
your missunderstanding this thread. its about wheel hubs, the part of the car that the disks, wheels etc are fitted to, not the disks. disk brakes are made of exposed metal eith no covering on them and always rust, they rust in a few hours and aren't a problem. the hubs are painted and are not meant to rust but are on my seat and many others.
tommot
Guest
Your misunderstanding and a lot of peoples on this thread is that the bit that you have a problem with is part of the disk; it’s the outside diameter of the wheel mounting face of the disk. The hub is something that you won’t ever see - unless you remove the disk.
I do see where you are all coming from on one side but its just something that has never bothered me… apart from the aesthetic issue there is no detremental effect of this surface rust.
Something I have noticed though, my last car (MY03 Toyota) had the same problem. I do some work at the manufacturing plant in Derby sometimes and have noticed that the part of the disk that is rusting on the Leon is now painted with a lot better coating than it used to be when I’ve walked through the plant previously - whether this has made a difference in the real world after exposure to the elements I honestly don’t know!?
beeby
Guest
ok, its not the actual cars hub but its not part of the cars actual disk brake. whether its a spacer or actually the same part as the disk its not an actual disk brake. people on here are talking about painting parts, I think we need to be clear that we are talkin about a certain part. i'm not questionning the intelligence of the people on here but i'd hate to see someone aplllying the old hammerite to the disk!
I have already posted on this thread but I'll put pic up again of what I have done as people rarely read back pages of a thread so it should clearer the whole disks/hubs what are we on about issue. I used black engine paint for mine and they look 100 times better. I've never believed anyone would get anywhere with Seat UK on this matter I think it will be down to each individual to paint the area affected, leave it, or pay somebody else to do it for you. It is purely cosmetic and sticks out like a sore thumb due to the alloys on these babies. Oh and painted the callipers whilst I was at it
check my link in post 130. Shows the outer part of the DISC that rusts, not a spacer in normal sense, or a hub, but the disc to hub mount and all one piece.
Similar threads
