SEAT LCR Platinum with teaching session
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Souveran is sold as either a paste wax or liquid wax, though? Neither of these will be any good in a foam gun.
Unless you're talking about a different product entirely.
maybe he means the pinnacle car shampoo.....
either way souveran will be neither use at this time of year, its too low on durability.
either way souveran will be neither use at this time of year, its too low on durability.
Interested to read your thread on DW regarding the foam guns. Don't think I'd ever seen a comparison test using the same product.
I too find the Karcher gun to be fine at its job, unless what you want to do is create really impressive shots of a perfectly white car. There comes a point (as a hobbyist, at least) where it's just not worth the extra money for stuff that's very similar to what you already have.
Says the guy who bought the DP foam gun shampoo when he already had a gallon of Hyper Wash
I too find the Karcher gun to be fine at its job, unless what you want to do is create really impressive shots of a perfectly white car. There comes a point (as a hobbyist, at least) where it's just not worth the extra money for stuff that's very similar to what you already have.
Says the guy who bought the DP foam gun shampoo when he already had a gallon of Hyper Wash
Interested to read your thread on DW regarding the foam guns. Don't think I'd ever seen a comparison test using the same product.
I too find the Karcher gun to be fine at its job, unless what you want to do is create really impressive shots of a perfectly white car. There comes a point (as a hobbyist, at least) where it's just not worth the extra money for stuff that's very similar to what you already have.
Says the guy who bought the DP foam gun shampoo when he already had a gallon of Hyper Wash
aye, my point too. What most have failed to realise, is the karcher almost blasts the foam on, thus helping with removal... but hey ho, horse to water and all that
Time for a re-appraisal for me over winter. I've now gone through the initial, buy-everything-that-moves phase and I'm starting to find the few products that work for me. Come next spring it'll be time to sell off a load of gear and stick with the favourites.
Too easy to get blinded by everyone's opinion on what's "best" and end up not really getting used to anything. I've been impressed reading a lot of your recent reports where you've used relatively few products and not chopped and changed for the sake of it.
Drifting off-topic here.
Too easy to get blinded by everyone's opinion on what's "best" and end up not really getting used to anything. I've been impressed reading a lot of your recent reports where you've used relatively few products and not chopped and changed for the sake of it.
Drifting off-topic here.
Its actually a very valid on topic point Mark. And I am very pleased its being picked up on.
I do not chop and change products, because you never really get to grips with them otherwise, do dont fully appreciate their value, ability and performance.
How many detailers do we see using compounds etc and high cutting pads to de-swirl a standard car?
We measured the clear coat before and afters on saturday and removal was minimal! Thats is to say almost nil!!!! Therefore the car can be machine polished many many times again if needed without any compromise to its paint.
How many detailers can add that to their list of can do's for their customers?.....
I actually got a call on Sunday from a new detailer - first real go with his PC - burnt through the clear coat on his car!!! Nuff said.
I do not chop and change products, because you never really get to grips with them otherwise, do dont fully appreciate their value, ability and performance.
How many detailers do we see using compounds etc and high cutting pads to de-swirl a standard car?
We measured the clear coat before and afters on saturday and removal was minimal! Thats is to say almost nil!!!! Therefore the car can be machine polished many many times again if needed without any compromise to its paint.
How many detailers can add that to their list of can do's for their customers?.....
I actually got a call on Sunday from a new detailer - first real go with his PC - burnt through the clear coat on his car!!! Nuff said.
Sad to say I managed the same thing on that Golf, trying to remove a scratch that was just too deep and blinded by a paint thickness of over 200microns on a resprayed panel.
Totally gutted afterwards, even moreso because the owner was pretty blasé about it at the time. A useful lesson to learn but a hard one all the same, especially for the owner of the car. Time to get a few scrap wings and see what can be achieved without fear of damaging anything.
Failing that, I'll just start "deswirling" cars by hand using AutoGlym Super Resin Polish...
andyj
There's no F in Quality..
Morning guys,
Apologies for the late reply, but as Iain and Dave will testify, I've officially got 'man-flu' Had a sore throat all day on Sunday, helped along with doses of pills/listerine from Iain! Bacon butty helped a treat to !
The aim of Sunday for me was to attempt to remove the several scuffs/fine scratches that were around the car, and see what Iain could do with the swirling. Along with prep'ing the car for the winter (as I can't be arsed to spend 3/4hours every couple of weeks keeping it clean!!).
Hadn't washed the car for about 3 weeks prior to Sunday, and had done about 1000 miles in that time..... so it was nice and 'mucky'!
Can't praise Iain enough for his friendliness and professionalism in the way he went about actually working on the car, but also talking me through what he was doing and why.
Talked through the products that I've got at home, and discussed the pro's & con's of them all. (you never did finish explaining why the Zymol Cleaner Wax followed by Megs Stage 2 was a bad idea..... )
Totally gutted about the swirls on the bonnet I'd been told by Pete that the front end had received a blow-over before he bought it from the dealer, and told Iain this. It appears that the bonnet was not properly prep'd before the blow-over, and there were swirls present. This meant that the was no way Iain would have been able to remove them
Apart from that little set back, the rest of the car went really well.
Had a go at using the Rotary to deswirl the bonnet (as can be seen in the pic! excuse the cheesy grin!) it's surprising how much 'kick' it gives even on speed 1! I can understand how people can do serious damage to paintwork (as was found out during the day when Ian recieved a phone call from a friend asking advice!! Dooh).
Overall I was really impressed with the end results, achieved what I want, and brought the car up to a lovely gloss finish. Shame about the rain at the end though.
I took some pictures yesterday when the sun was out, so I'll stick them up later.
Many thanks to Iain, Dave and Emma (for the bacon butty!)
Andy
Apologies for the late reply, but as Iain and Dave will testify, I've officially got 'man-flu'
Had a sore throat all day on Sunday, helped along with doses of pills/listerine from Iain! Bacon butty helped a treat to ! The aim of Sunday for me was to attempt to remove the several scuffs/fine scratches that were around the car, and see what Iain could do with the swirling. Along with prep'ing the car for the winter (as I can't be arsed to spend 3/4hours every couple of weeks keeping it clean!!).
Hadn't washed the car for about 3 weeks prior to Sunday, and had done about 1000 miles in that time..... so it was nice and 'mucky'!
Can't praise Iain enough for his friendliness and professionalism in the way he went about actually working on the car, but also talking me through what he was doing and why.
Talked through the products that I've got at home, and discussed the pro's & con's of them all. (you never did finish explaining why the Zymol Cleaner Wax followed by Megs Stage 2 was a bad idea.....
)Totally gutted about the swirls on the bonnet
I'd been told by Pete that the front end had received a blow-over before he bought it from the dealer, and told Iain this. It appears that the bonnet was not properly prep'd before the blow-over, and there were swirls present. This meant that the was no way Iain would have been able to remove them Apart from that little set back, the rest of the car went really well.
Had a go at using the Rotary to deswirl the bonnet (as can be seen in the pic! excuse the cheesy grin!
) it's surprising how much 'kick' it gives even on speed 1! I can understand how people can do serious damage to paintwork (as was found out during the day when Ian recieved a phone call from a friend asking advice!! Dooh).Overall I was really impressed with the end results, achieved what I want, and brought the car up to a lovely gloss finish. Shame about the rain at the end though.
I took some pictures yesterday when the sun was out, so I'll stick them up later.
Many thanks to Iain, Dave and Emma (for the bacon butty!)
Andy
Morning guys,
Apologies for the late reply, but as Iain and Dave will testify, I've officially got 'man-flu'
The aim of Sunday for me was to attempt to remove the several scuffs/fine scratches that were around the car, and see what Iain could do with the swirling. Along with prep'ing the car for the winter (as I can't be arsed to spend 3/4hours every couple of weeks keeping it clean!!).
Hadn't washed the car for about 3 weeks prior to Sunday, and had done about 1000 miles in that time..... so it was nice and 'mucky'!
Can't praise Iain enough for his friendliness and professionalism in the way he went about actually working on the car, but also talking me through what he was doing and why.
Talked through the products that I've got at home, and discussed the pro's & con's of them all. (you never did finish explaining why the Zymol Cleaner Wax followed by Megs Stage 2 was a bad idea.....
Totally gutted about the swirls on the bonnet
Apart from that little set back, the rest of the car went really well.
Had a go at using the Rotary to deswirl the bonnet (as can be seen in the pic! excuse the cheesy grin!
Overall I was really impressed with the end results, achieved what I want, and brought the car up to a lovely gloss finish. Shame about the rain at the end though.
I took some pictures yesterday when the sun was out, so I'll stick them up later.
Many thanks to Iain, Dave and Emma (for the bacon butty!)
Andy
cheers for taht. sorry to hear the man-flu has got a hold, wish you well soon matey.
The zymol-glaze thing.
Due to the cleaner wax having a wax content, placing a glaze over the top will have no impact what so ever. The glaze cannot reach the paint to enrich its properties due to the wax layer... wasted time effort and money.
andyj
There's no F in Quality..
ah ha, understand what you're saying....
so is it worth using the Zymol Cleaner Wax? Or Ebay it ?!?
so is it worth using the Zymol Cleaner Wax? Or Ebay it ?!?
ah ha, understand what you're saying....
so is it worth using the Zymol Cleaner Wax? Or Ebay it ?!?
it will be good to keep to cleanse/clean, and just add a separate wax over the top for a true deep finish
andyj
There's no F in Quality..
Cheers
going to try and borrow the dremmel from work at the weekend, and try and clean up the exhaust a bit more !!!
going to try and borrow the dremmel from work at the weekend, and try and clean up the exhaust a bit more !!!
Cheers
going to try and borrow the dremmel from work at the weekend, and try and clean up the exhaust a bit more !!!
make sure you have a few polishing attachments, that exhaust will balcken them beyond re-use in no time. Just use plenty of metal cleaner and be patient.
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