Model Year 22/23 Servicing

Villabrand

Active Member
Apr 2, 2023
139
66
Had the Aircon service done after two years as they advised was due. But I'm on a service plan so did not question, although did think to myself is it really necessary when I've only done 9k miles.
 

SRGTD

Active Member
May 26, 2014
2,836
1,694
My VZN less than 2 years old, today I booked car for my 3rd service.
Very strange thing they said aircon service which I rejected. As there was price associated.
So went for only oil / oil filter 263£ and Haldex 125£
Now this is new air-conditioning service, has anyone been told this is now part of service if I don't get it done it will spill into next service?
This is pure money making tactics as far as I think.

Thanks.

I used to own a VW and VW‘s service advisors always used to try and ‘encourage‘ customers to buy the air con service, but it was never a chargeable part of the standard service. The air con service was a VW recommendation, not a requirement to maintain the car’s warranty in force so I adopted the approach that if the air con was working efficiently, I‘d decline the air con service.

Whether this has now changed I don’t know as I’m no longer a VW owner.
 

Seastormer

Cupra Leon VZ2 300/CBF1000
Apr 25, 2014
5,431
930
70
Edinburgh (Scotland)
My Leon has had it's 3rd annual service back in May, I was not asked if I wanted the aircon serviced and with my previous Leon 280, I only had the aircon done at 5 years as it was still working fine.
 

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
My VZN less than 2 years old, today I booked car for my 3rd service.
Very strange thing they said aircon service which I rejected. As there was price associated.
So went for only oil / oil filter 263£ and Haldex 125£
Now this is new air-conditioning service, has anyone been told this is now part of service if I don't get it done it will spill into next service?
This is pure money making tactics as far as I think.

Thanks.
At two years old your vehicle is due an air conditioning service and brake fluid change, it's been that way for quite some time.

R134a and R1234yf are recommended every 2 years and R744 every 4 years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bahnstormer_vRS

Seriously?

Active Member
Apr 20, 2018
1,503
1,103
At two years old your vehicle is due an air conditioning service and brake fluid change, it's been that way for quite some time.

R134a and R1234yf are recommended every 2 years and R744 every 4 years.
Is brake fluid 2 years now?
I always worked the basis of 3 years.
 

Delanor

Active Member
Aug 9, 2022
148
57
My VZN is 2 years old and when I recently had it serviced (Oil service) they recommended I had the air con service I decided to have it done as next time it will be a full "kerching" inspection service so the air con has been done but I have no doubt the cost of the service will still be the same!
 
Last edited:

KJA

Active Member
Feb 18, 2024
163
50
South East England
Thanks folks for all the inputs really appreciate.
Maybe will get air-conditioning done next time. To me its a sealed unit if its working fine its working fine.
I don't think there is any serviceable part there. Unless its faulty or there is some refrigerant topup. But 200£ plus for that is a bit absurd.
 

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
The system suffers natural leakage of refrigerant through seals and valves to the point it just won't function anymore. It can be up to 20% a year on some vehicles.

Having the refrigerant changed and the oil replenished helps to rejuvenate the seals, lubricate the compressor etc.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Seriously? and KJA

KJA

Active Member
Feb 18, 2024
163
50
South East England
If they do that all then its worth. Compressor oil etc. I usually don't leave the aircon dead. Even in winters give it a go for sometimes so oil and refrigerant circulate.
 

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
You tend to find on modern A/C systems that it's always on to some degree, it's just such a small amount (1-5%) that it's barely unnoticeable and has very little impact.
It keeps things moving and prevent component failure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KJA

Cupra_33

Active Member
Sep 9, 2024
64
10
France
I formerly owned:
- Skoda Superb Estate Mk2 for 6.5 years and 119000km
- Audi Q3 Mk1 for 9 years and 165000 km
- Skoda Superb Estate Mk3 for 7.5 years and 136000 km.
On all of them, air con was on all the time. Never had to have it serviced or replenished. They all kept delivering cool air even by high temp over 35-40C.
Thus, I don’t plan to have our Formentor air con serviced, if it still works fine. ?‍♂️
 
  • Like
Reactions: Seastormer

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
It's really all about making money, as dealers are skint too.
I dunno, keeping systems on a vehicle working at their optimum performance, so drivers don't experience any type of failure seems like a pretty justifiable reason to have small, additional and completely optional jobs done ?‍♂️

Imagine the other side of the coin if it wasn't recommended? Possible brake fade and air con failures all round, once again, the dealer would be the bad guy.
 

Delanor

Active Member
Aug 9, 2022
148
57
This Cupra servicing is confusing me again, I had my VZN serviced in April 2024 the message in the car stated an "Oil service" was due I had this done which was listed by the dealer as "Seat 1st Service" which consisted of an Oil change (Long Life Oil) and a "Visual health check" for £235 then again this year another "Oil service" 12 months later which was stated by the dealer as "Cupra Interim Service" which consisted of an Oil change (Long Life Oil) an Air Con Re-Gas and a "Visual health check" but with a more intensive list than last time for £458!

Now I have this message in the car so the 198 days will take me to the end of April 2026 for an "Inspection" is that the same again as a "Cupra Interim Service" with a Long Life Oil change again @ £117 a time for the Oil, then 268 days or 9 months later another "Oil service" with presumably another" (Long Life Oil) change!

So whats going on with this Cupra service shedule especially with this expensive Long Life Oil that is apparently changed as any normal engine oil!
 

Attachments

  • Cupra service.JPG
    Cupra service.JPG
    427.3 KB · Views: 8
Last edited:

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
The service regime on a vehicle with fixed intervals should be:

Oil change around 9350 miles or one year

Oil change with inspection around 18700 miles or two years and pollen filter (A/C, Brake fluid and Haldex recommended)

Oil change around 28050 miles or three years with MOT (Haldex recommended)

Etc
 
  • Like
Reactions: trew

Delanor

Active Member
Aug 9, 2022
148
57
Hence why I say I am confused - so if the Cupra is serviced every year or 9350 miles there is no need for Long Life oil mine was serviced at 12 months and 6670 miles then again at 2 years old it was on 11350 miles and had the Air con re-charged, pollen filter changed but no Brake fluid or Haldex change!

So if the service regime is as you say shouldn`t the dealers know about it, also the first service they used 0w30 Long Life Oil the second service (same franchise different dealer) they used 5w30 Long Life Oil when I questioned the 5w 30 oil I was told its the same, and since then Its been back to the dealer that did the 1st service with a check engine warning lamp fault and they say 0w30 should be used in newer vehicles as it improves fuel consumption and 5w 30 in older vehicles!

I`m begining to think it might be better to go to Halfords etc for servicing as they might have better knowledge what is required!
 

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
You'll probably find that most, if not all oil used in dealerships now carries the longlife wording.

With it being longlife oil it doesn't necessarily mean that it's only purpose is for use in variable servicing. It can be used in most engines with the key advantages being increased efficiency and minimal emissions.

Yes, the dealership should realistically know about the services you need on your vehicle, but more often than not, the person or people you deal with will never have had their head under a bonnet.

You can send me your VIN and I'll clarify what it requires? Or best of luck with Halfords, they have their own level of horror stories...
 

Delanor

Active Member
Aug 9, 2022
148
57
I mentioned the engine check light came on so it went into the local Cupra dealer who diagnosed it was due to who serviced it last (they knew it was their other dealer) had spilt oil at the filler and it had affected a sensor so they had to clean it all which cleared the fault when I got the car back I checked under the engine cover there was no sign of any oil spill and if there was they had managed to clean it all without disturbing all the dust/grime under there but then I realised the oil filler cap which was yellow was now a new black one!
 

James_R

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇩🇪🇪🇸
Staff member
Moderator
Apr 22, 2008
5,841
218
38
Manchester
I do remember you mentioning that on another thread, they likely didn't fit the cap back on correctly after service.