Supercharged Mk2 Ibiza - pictures from holland 14/7/09

sjc59

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Saw this white one running at donny it sounded great gave me lots of things to think about on the way home and roliech i did see your car got a pic of it somewhere 2.
 

ste4232

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Saw this white one running at donny it sounded great gave me lots of things to think about on the way home and roliech i did see your car got a pic of it somewhere 2.


thanks mate! its nicknamed 'the kettle' by me. Apparently you can here me coming from a mile away LOL!

The dump valve is just insane loud LOL! and i love it!
 

Ant FR

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I only reduced boost to trial the system. I plan on smaller pulley and bigger injectors, etc soon.

And i thought the same 3 psi is nothing BUT . . .the Vw specialist i used still guestimates ive gained 20-30 bhp from conversion based on other cars he has seen with same engine mods before i charged it. Persoanlly the difference in the car was imence too!

The eaton 45 chargers can run max 14,000ish RPM, so charger pulley to crank pulley radio must be 2:1 so at 7,000rpm the charger is not over reving its self to bits. This is similar to radio on a mini cooper S, and they make approx 7psi std if im not mistaken. From my experiments i cant see how people can expect to run more than 7psi without over working charger to death . . . However, until i get her running on std smaller pulley again and observing boost guage in car i wont know. People put smaller pulley's on the chargers but doing the maths on charger max RPM this doesn't make sence?

Correct me if im wrong . . .

The standard Cooper S tends to run about 10-12 PSi, Mine runs 18psi. The supercharger is one of the most reliable elements of the car. In fact i have never heard of a supercharger going wrong on a Mini yet, :confused:

The other thing is the belt would slip before the charger got overworked, thats why most limit the pulley reduction to -17%, anymore and slippage is a major problem
 

ste4232

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ste4232.......Are you from Burton way by any chance? My mate used to harp on about your ibiza.

Chris your going to have to do a big parts list when its finished ;)

close mate, Burntwood / cannock / lichfield is my local area. Ive been round burton a few times in her though so bound to have been spotted!
 

ste4232

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The standard Cooper S tends to run about 10-12 PSi, Mine runs 18psi. The supercharger is one of the most reliable elements of the car. In fact i have never heard of a supercharger going wrong on a Mini yet, :confused:

The other thing is the belt would slip before the charger got overworked, thats why most limit the pulley reduction to -17%, anymore and slippage is a major problem

Thanks for the reply mate! Nice to know! Im just going by the max rpm quote on the eatoin website.

Im not too fussed anyway as i paid £50 for my charger with just 6 miles on it. Ive got a spare too so if it does go pop im not fussed! Ive shreaded one belt as my custom alternator bracket snapped and the belt went slack and wrapped round the pulley. Only real problem ive had in the whole conversion and its been fine since!

Can i ask a weired favor or for info if you know it . . . What is the diameter of the std crank pulley on your mini? Im interested to see if it is a 2:1 ratio between the 2 pulleys.
 

Ant FR

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i honestly could'nt tell you that, best ask someone like GT tuning, he would probably know it off the top of his head
 

Chrisdaman

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just a rough price list so far

Eaton M45 Supercharger - £150
Medium Intercooler - £130
V3.0 Megasquirt ECU - £450
M45 Supercharger Brackets - £250
Boost Return Valve - £50
Silicon Boost Hoses - £150
Cossie “Green” Injectors - £110
1.8T Inlet Manifold (Throttle body on the right) - £70
1.8T Fuel Rail with 3BAR FRP - £30
2x G60 Head Gaskets - £80
Lower Half of 16v Inlet Manifold - £20
8v Injector Seats - £7
1.8T Air Temp Sensor - £20
New Discs and Pads - £150
Jetex 70mm Air Filter - £35
Mocal Boost Gauge + fitting kit - £45
Splitfire A-Pillar boost Gauge Holder - £30

Total (roughly)
£1777

scary lol
 

m0rk

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You've missed out new long bolts & cam belt if you're having the head off.

Also good quality jubilee clips, gaskets for the inlet manifold & throttle body (what throttle body?) and probably a new throttle cable.

And wiring & tuning.... and a wideband lambda probe

I think you need to add on another £500 - £750
 

Fl@pper

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is that how your lowering the compression ? 2 head gaskets ?

20vt conversion doesnt look so bad after all - cost soon builds up i guess
 
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Telford ay it...
is that how your lowering the compression ? 2 head gaskets ?

20vt conversion doesnt look so bad after all - cost soon builds up i guess

Yeah but to get a 150bhp 1.8t lump running plus 200bhp will cost you a few pennies to do it properly. Remap, FMIC, Hoses, Filter, Exhaust, odds and sods etc. They all add up.
 

Fl@pper

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Yeah but to get a 150bhp 1.8t lump running plus 200bhp will cost you a few pennies to do it properly. Remap, FMIC, Hoses, Filter, Exhaust, odds and sods etc. They all add up.

installed a 210 leon lump in a 16v corrado about 6 months ago all in it cost the guy £1200 in bits but there was a bonus as the leon ecu had been revo'd previously but couldnt tell ya what bhp it was in the end

tell a lie - once he'd sold all the original bits he reckoned it cost him £700

dont get me wrong it can be done cheap or expensive its all a case of time/money/skill at the end of the day and having seen a turbo'd 16v in a mk1 golf its got a hell of a potential too - just seems to be getting a bit steep considering other options

considered doing mine while it was off the road but the charger i want is £1200 on its own even when i make all the parts myself

if you do it like ste4232 has its cheaper than a remap :blink: even with standard motor - and we all know what its like to get 200bhp out of a 16v the normal way £££
 

Fl@pper

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one point i would add - the 16v manifold is long branched to make up the lower end torque so personally if you are boosting it super or turbo id change the standard top half to a 20vt/Audi manifold - makes the inlet shorter and all the workings are at the front of the engine bay then

still tempted to do mine though
 
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Telford ay it...
installed a 210 leon lump in a 16v corrado about 6 months ago all in it cost the guy £1200 in bits but there was a bonus as the leon ecu had been revo'd previously but couldnt tell ya what bhp it was in the end

tell a lie - once he'd sold all the original bits he reckoned it cost him £700

dont get me wrong it can be done cheap or expensive its all a case of time/money/skill at the end of the day and having seen a turbo'd 16v in a mk1 golf its got a hell of a potential too - just seems to be getting a bit steep considering other options

considered doing mine while it was off the road but the charger i want is £1200 on its own even when i make all the parts myself

if you do it like ste4232 has its cheaper than a remap :blink: even with standard motor - and we all know what its like to get 200bhp out of a 16v the normal way £££

If you put it that way the 20vt sounds a very good idea, get a doner use the bits you need and make money selling of the rest.

Superchargings different and it sounds crazy :)
 
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