The Cupra Kid said:
These car have been flogged to death, think about it... would you drive you pride and joy you have paid a lot of money for like you stole it...i think not! would you if it was not yours....hummmm! These cars should have its history FULLY disclosed to the new buyer...but they never will...cos you would'nt buy it!
Tracking the history is impossable, my dealer tried and failed! well thats the story I got!

These cars get dented, smashed, ragged, repaired....then sold as a used car. I know, I had one!

All you can do if cross your fingers its OK, if not, go back to a the dealer and see what they do about it! As a tip, have a look in the service book and see whats written as the owner... seat uk or seat special operations!

I've had 4 seats now, and ALL 4 have been ex SEAT UK cars, two special ops, one a demo, and the current R possibly given to a SEAT sponsored Touring car driver as a company car. Have I had any problems with them? Nope, not a single problem.

You check it over like you would any second hand car.

Pete
 
Icecavern said:
I've had 4 seats now, and ALL 4 have been ex SEAT UK cars, two special ops, one a demo, and the current R possibly given to a SEAT sponsored Touring car driver as a company car. Have I had any problems with them? Nope, not a single problem.

You check it over like you would any second hand car.

Pete

yeah mine was a special ops car! Mine could have also been driven by a Tourin car driver, could also have been driven by someone who dont give a toss cos it aint his car!...R stands for racing, also = Ragged!!!! So you've had 4, with no probs... lucky you...my bodywork had all been sprayed, the rear passanger window had been replaced, the brakes feel like it aint going to stop and it ticks over lumpy as hell! I could go on!

I checked the car over before I purchased it, yep i noticed a few things and pointed them out to the dealer, said i wanted the history of the car....it imposs to find this out!!!!

Only noticed the crap respray after the first time I cleaned it...I got soo angry and upset i never finished it! It not until you get up close and personal you see most of the problems!

ya pays ya money, ya takes ya chance!!!!
 
Then if SEAT don't think their cars are up to track use after we buy them, why would it be okay before hand?

You're lucky to have had a good dealer to go to, they were probably as annoyed as you at getting an ex track car if they couldn't trace it's history.
 
In all likelyhood your car was probably used in the motorsport experiences they ran last year. Hence the low miles & squeedgy brakes.

I bet you got a good deal mind (easily cover the brake pads & fluid) but bodywork & respray you have come back on against the warrantee.

It's well within the sales of goods act, as the car is perfectly fit for purpose.

As a 2nd hand car purchase, you are allowed to reject it within the terms of the SEAT 101 point check etc within 30 days
 
I have and I did!

Im getting a replacement thats done less than 500miles...not a lot could have happend to this one!!! Had a GOOD look over it and its like new!!! And I've got a GREAT deal!!!!
 
The Cupra Kid said:
yeah mine was a special ops car! Mine could have also been driven by a Tourin car driver, could also have been driven by someone who dont give a toss cos it aint his car!...R stands for racing, also = Ragged!!!! So you've had 4, with no probs... lucky you...my bodywork had all been sprayed, the rear passanger window had been replaced, the brakes feel like it aint going to stop and it ticks over lumpy as hell! I could go on!

I checked the car over before I purchased it, yep i noticed a few things and pointed them out to the dealer, said i wanted the history of the car....it imposs to find this out!!!!

Only noticed the crap respray after the first time I cleaned it...I got soo angry and upset i never finished it! It not until you get up close and personal you see most of the problems!

ya pays ya money, ya takes ya chance!!!!


i think you need to get someone who knows about cars to check over your next one mate ;)
 
The Cupra Kid said:
So you've had 4, with no probs... lucky you...my bodywork had all been sprayed, the rear passanger window had been replaced, the brakes feel like it aint going to stop and it ticks over lumpy as hell! I could go on!

I checked the car over before I purchased it, yep i noticed a few things and pointed them out to the dealer, said i wanted the history of the car....it imposs to find this out!!!!

Only noticed the crap respray after the first time I cleaned it...I got soo angry and upset i never finished it! It not until you get up close and personal you see most of the problems!

ya pays ya money, ya takes ya chance!!!!

OK so what you're saying is you bought a second hand car, without checking it over properly and now trying to justify your mistake by saying it's Seats fault for not telling you it's been a track car? What proof do you have that it was a track car anyway?

Rough idling, crap paintwork, and bad brakes, should have all been things you would have spotted if you'd checked the car over properly.

As said I've owned 4 ex SEAT cars and had no problems other than an aftermarket exhaust not mating up to the cat on my Cordy SX. I know full well my last Leon ( a cupra ) was thrashed to buggery before I got it because I saw it come steaming into the carpark the day I test drove it. But I checked it over right and could see it was fine.

Pete
 
Not the same car I know but my Arosa 16v with 7k on it, it was owned by Seat Special Operations in Dover,... i drove 2 arosa sports before I bought mine and it was in the best nick, and 'felt' slightly quicker.. although they may have been coz' it had been worn in more from the ragging it recieved from birth!
It's now got 53k on it and runs like a dream, never had anything mechanical go wrong with it (apart from the pedal box:redface: ) touch wood - as others have said it's down to the individual car. I would rather have a ex press car that had been ragged for a few K than one that was crunched round in first gear everywhere by some old biddie...
 
I'd go through ALL of the track day photos on the Seat website and look for your REG plate :D

EDIT: We should probbably compile a list of known ones for peeps to check against.
 
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it's a ****, but i rember when i did my track day that i got with mny car, jason plato made a joke about buying 6mth old car with 2-3 k on the clock as its been ragged all over , but i just thought he was joking.

he said they go through them like water
 
I’ve started to look at Noble M12’s as the next thing to replace the Leon (and it’s going to take some time before I get one!!!) just you want to try and find one of those that haven’t been around a track!!! Humm, now, let me think, why have you had race harnesses fitted and you’re advertising the car with a ‘track day’ baffled sump!!! It aint going to stop me though :drool:
 
horses for courses! buy a Noble etc and you expect it, buy a 4 seater family car, a bit different i think!!!!

At the end of the day, if your happy driving you car around knowing its been ragged to bits...then good for you, me on the other had, not a chance! And as for those people who told me I should pay more attention when looking at a car when buy one...yeah right! Like ya going to go ALL over a car, take the rubbers back, check every f'ing nut and bolt, look underneth, be totally anal...if it come from a MAIN SEAT DEALER you trust them to a degree! And my car was well covered up, it wasnt till I looked long and hard I found the faults...some people have lower levels of expectance then others!

think this tread needs to be closed now!
 
Must admit, my FR was previously owned by Seat UK, but just thought this meant that it was owned by someone working at Seat head office.....:shrug:

Mind you most of the cars at my dealer were ex Seat UK :banned:
 
I would imagine press cars / motorsport day cars would have had some extra tlc from Seat and despite being worked hard - would have been looked after quite well too.

Scott
 
The Cupra Kid said:
horses for courses! buy a Noble etc and you expect it, buy a 4 seater family car, a bit different i think!!!!

At the end of the day, if your happy driving you car around knowing its been ragged to bits...then good for you, me on the other had, not a chance! And as for those people who told me I should pay more attention when looking at a car when buy one...yeah right! Like ya going to go ALL over a car, take the rubbers back, check every f'ing nut and bolt, look underneth, be totally anal...if it come from a MAIN SEAT DEALER you trust them to a degree! And my car was well covered up, it wasnt till I looked long and hard I found the faults...some people have lower levels of expectance then others!

think this tread needs to be closed now!

I’m with you 100% on this, there is NO WAY that a main dealer for Seat should be selling a car like this without telling the prospective owner who is going to pay over his own hard earned cash for this item knowing that there is a bit of a dubious background to the car.

I don’t agree with the generalisation that every silver LCR was a Seat track demo car, as I know that mine wasn’t and has been said on this thread they did use all manner of colours on the track day excursions!

I am pleased that your bad experience is all sorted out for you and that you are coming out of this with a newer and better car and that you have managed get the dealer to cough up just I wonder what’s going to happen to your silver LCR now! Pound to a pinch of sh*t it will be on either your or some other dealer forecourt within a matter of weeks!!! That’s not good

Oh, and no, I wouldn’t be stripping the door seals off the car to look underneath them and generally ripping the car to bits when its at the dealers, I would never have seen any need to!

I look forward to seeing the pic’s of your new car and hope it’s a better experience for you :thumbup:
 
Syphon said:
I would imagine press cars / motorsport day cars would have had some extra tlc from Seat and despite being worked hard - would have been looked after quite well too.

Scott


Why am I picturing a bit from the original ‘Italian Job’ film where the mini goes up the ramp, through a brick wall and rolls followed by the Michael Cain line ‘no, no, no that’s not right, get another car’, (looking to the bloke at his right) ‘how many have we got left’, ‘a couple Charley, a couple!!!’

I'll get my coat :whistle: