Anyone remeber that green Toledo race car?

[andyb]

Hope so! I can't see it being the original one...!

Looks very mid nineties Touring car though.... perhaps imported from some kind of ETCC as a show car for SEAT?

SEAT France (in those days, a company called sonauto IIRC) ran a couple (blue and white I think) of Toledos in the early days in the French Touring Car Championship. No real success, although I do remember a piccy in Autosport a few years ago, when rumours started about their re-entry into tintops with Toly Mk2

 

[Chris Eyre]

That's a good point - could well be where it came from. It was so random to have been put together with no race agenda.

 

[IainW]

I tried to find out about the French Supertourisme Toledo last night when I saw this thread, but all I could find was that the driver (Jean-Denis Deletraz, the F1 rentadriver) finished about 13th overall and his best finish was a 5th.

 

[m0rk]

probably why it was in automotive history then..... was a nowhere

 

[Chris Eyre]

PVW article dug out:

 

[m0rk]

anyone else thinks this '230'bhp engine is the same as the Max Power featured Ibiza from the same era?

Std inlet manifold etc gives it away as being 'not' a lehmann

good find though Chris!

 

[F2 Stu]

My thoughts exactly.

Perhaps it was built as precursor for other projects outside rallying, though they stuck to that for a good few years after.

 

[WeeJase]

anyone else thinks this '230'bhp engine is the same as the Max Power featured Ibiza from the same era?

Std inlet manifold etc gives it away as being 'not' a lehmann

good find though Chris!

*it has got the SAMCO inlet pipe,which was"developed to stop it collapsing on the rally cars"

that didn't actually use them.
*sales bullpoop from now departed manager of a certain banbury based "tuning" company

 

[RobT]

engine sounds suspect to me - 230hp....hmm

but 7 speed sequential box ! rare gemini item perhaps as used by alistair mcrae on SBG blue golf ?

 

[Chris Eyre]

Puzzles me that one also. Gemini only did the one 6-speed seq 'box & Seat used Hewland 6-speed sequentials throughout kitcars Evos 1 & 2 ( - how's the dossier going btw?).

Half a chance it was this VWM Sweden / Geartec AB 'box (which SBG tried and then ditched)... http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1125621&postcount=321

*sales bullpoop from now departed manager of a certain banbury based "tuning" company

Banbury, or Daventry?

 

[IainW]

Bringing back the subject of racing MK1 Toledos, look what I found for sale. One of the ex-French Supertourisme cars?

 

[Chris Eyre]

Good find! Just off to his website to check the spec

Damn - think it's gone.

 

[Saul]

http://www.autowebocasio.com/duenas/cast/llistat_marques.asp?id_marca=62

he has got some impressive kit!

 

[Chris Eyre]

Ah, Lordy:

And... answers on a postcard:

 

[Chris Eyre]

That Toledo GT on his site is something odd...

 

[F2 Stu]

Thats an interesting TB set up

 

[F2 Stu]

That Toledo GT on his site is something odd...

I think thats a Snobeck produced car for some french silhoette series

 

[andyb]

I think thats a Snobeck produced car for some french silhoette series

built by Snobeck who later built the Cordoba, which IIRC won the French Championship with Raddermacker I think.

That Toledo briefly appeared as a Leon (as the whole rear end lifts off). Originally in SEAT Silver and yellow

 

[andyb]

OK, here is the Mk 1 Toledo that raced in the French series

note its pre-face lift (although that could have easily been changed.

More up to date....

Leon Super turisme which quickly morphed into the Toledo

Cordoba (which won the championship)

 

[IainW]

Good find Andy. I didn't even know that Cordoba existed.