AndrewJB

Friend to SEAT UK & Cupra Racing
Aug 16, 2007
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Really really depends on what power the fabia was running!

They can run anywhere between 130-300
 

FR_Flavoured

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Yeah true. You just automatically think 170 dont you (just standard remap). I was just abit gutted thats all. ha

Without having stopped and chatted to said car/driver, you can only speculate.

Could have been HEAVILY remapped + engine modifications. Considering he accelerated away to start with, he obviously fancied his chances. ;)
 

stephenh

Active Member
Jan 31, 2010
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ha, yes treue. He was infront and I stuck to him, got above 1 and i started to get by him... But yes, true, im hoping it have heavily remapped :)
 

FR_Flavoured

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ha, yes treue. He was infront and I stuck to him, got above 1 and i started to get by him... But yes, true, im hoping it have heavily remapped :)

Maybe next time he'll blow an engine component as it screams for submission, while you just sail past. ;)

I felt so gutted I actually wanted to sell my car at one point, when I was being tailed by a CORSA VXR !!!
But then I thought to myself, who cares, I drive a 'classy' Leon, something to be proud of - not like him, stuck behind the wheel of some factory chavved up Corsa (that I wouldnt be seen dead driving)! lol.
 
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kinjamin

Black Altea XL 170
May 9, 2009
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ha, yes treue. He was infront and I stuck to him, got above 1 and i started to get by him... But yes, true, im hoping it have heavily remapped :)

I have noticed the same not with a Fabia but with a Scooby. Through the gears it the same but high figures and to will slighly pull away or in your case overtake! It all depends who plants foot down first! Clearly the other car did and you still managed to overtake it. It wouold have been worse if you could not even get close!

Kinjamin
 

stephenh

Active Member
Jan 31, 2010
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Nottinghamshire
Maybe next time he'll blow an engine component as it screams for submission, while you just sail past. ;)

I felt so gutted I actually wanted to sell my car at one point, when I was overtaken by a CORSA VXR !!!
But then I thought to myself, who cares, I drive a 'classy' Leon, something to be proud of - not like him, stuck behind the wheel of some factory chavved up Corsa (that I wouldnt be seen dead driving)! lol.


haha, Yes, to be fair i heard his engine screaming as i went by so it was defo at higher revs than the Leon.
Oh now i did have a battle with a VXR corsa the other week lol. As he wheel spin away i caught him right up and had to keep taking my foot away.

Kin: Yeah I guess just a case of different engines, different gears. I took a guy out in mine the other week who owns a new S3 and he said my Leons definatly on par with the S3 mid speed around 30-60, but guessing after that I stand no chance.
 

kinjamin

Black Altea XL 170
May 9, 2009
159
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haha, Yes, to be fair i heard his engine screaming as i went by so it was defo at higher revs than the Leon.
Oh now i did have a battle with a VXR corsa the other week lol. As he wheel spin away i caught him right up and had to keep taking my foot away.

Kin: Yeah I guess just a case of different engines, different gears. I took a guy out in mine the other week who owns a new S3 and he said my Leons definatly on par with the S3 mid speed around 30-60, but guessing after that I stand no chance.

Weight is an issue I guess as well. Mines a 2 tonne tank Altea XL! or as the book states 2089 kg. Leons are aournd the 1900 mark! I dread to think what the Skoda Fabia weighs? Smaller 1700 kgs? Still if both cars modifed then surely the less weigh the better!

Kinjamin
 

kinjamin

Black Altea XL 170
May 9, 2009
159
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Yeah i bet they are alot lighter. My ibiza used to feel like a gokart compared with the leon. I didnt realise the Altea weighed that much though!

Thats the Altea XL no the standard Altea!

Standard Alteas FR weigh 2041 kg

Kinjamin
 

MWG

Active Member
Oct 6, 2008
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Think the weights you are quoting is their fully loaded weights, with a driver and a tank of fuel they should be

Leon ~ 1350Kg

Altea ~ 1430Kg

Altea XL ~1500Kg
 

kinjamin

Black Altea XL 170
May 9, 2009
159
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Think the weights you are quoting is their fully loaded weights, with a driver and a tank of fuel they should be

Leon ~ 1350Kg

Altea ~ 1430Kg

Altea XL ~1500Kg

Cool! Thought I may have to go on a diet! Still though the seat xl is quite a Heavy car! Currently returning around 520-560 miles to the tank! Impressive me thinks with the power as well!
 

mds1256

Facelift Leon Cupra
Jan 7, 2007
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I have noticed that cars around 200ish bhp can keep with the leon and vice versa. I don't think the de-dpf'd leons are all that quick in all honesty and I drive one.

me vs a type-r and in honesty there wasnt much in it, I got the initial leg but as soon as 3 figures arrives they start catching.

The leon seems to have lots of torque low down.

I have mentioned before there is a fairly steep hill around mine which I take as a benchmark and basically from standard car to de-dpf'd (with over 50 more bhp) I got 7mph more up the bank. I would expect a lot more from a car that has 50+bhp more.

I was in a astra VXR up the same bank and it gets 16mph more than my +7mph which is rated at 240bhp. compared to mine being roughly 230bhp and alot more torque than a VXR.

I cannot even use the weight excuse as there were 4 passengers in the VXR and there was only me in mine when I done the benchmark.
 
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FR_Flavoured

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^ Interesting thread mds1256, plus your 'benchmark' hill. :)

The last 2 sentences say alot! Plus the VXR had the extra weight of FOUR Passengers, yet still clocked up a better speed! Says alot for the Leon (any similar spec'ed Leon) in the same circumstances. :think:

...but again, I'd rather be driving a 'sophisticated' Leon any day, than ANY chavvy Vauxhall ! (no matter how much faster it might be).
 

kinjamin

Black Altea XL 170
May 9, 2009
159
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^ Interesting thread mds1256, plus your 'benchmark' hill. :)

The last 2 sentences say alot! Plus the VXR had the extra weight of FOUR Passengers, yet still clocked up a better speed! Says alot for the Leon (any similar spec'ed Leon) in the same circumstances. :think:

...but again, I'd rather be driving a 'sophisticated' Leon any day, than ANY chavvy Vauxhall ! (no matter how much faster it might be).

Ditto!

German engineered parts! So I guess you will keep on going! Any modifications I guess from Vauxhall probably needs more upgrades on the standard equipment!

Kinjamin
 

MK1_LOVE

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Jul 23, 2010
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Now then guys..

My Mrs was so annoyed with the issues with her DPF as she usually does short journeys that after a long think we decided the only way was to get the DPF deleted and mapped out last week.

It was done by a company called ECU-Flash in Sheffield. Friendly guy and seems to know his stuff.

This is mainly my wifes car that she uses to take kids to school so we didnt want no miltek pipe or anything fancy like that.

ECU-Flash do not fit a Miltek delete pipe. They remove the dpf from the housing and remove all regeneration processes which stop it regenning.

Soon after getting it done I did 250 miles that day and have since done about another 200 miles.

So far no issues but will keep you guys posted if there are any. The car feels a lot faster but still drives like a factory car should and id estimate it to be atleast 200-210 bhp although no rolling road was done.

Price £400 including life time guarantee.

My Mrs is finally loving the car.

T

Just an update. 2 months later.

Still lovely to drive and since had no issues.

T
 

zamzia

Gixer 750 K8
Dec 6, 2010
160
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Newmarket
Got mine booked in at a company in Nottinghamshire for next Tuesday although not sure I need it......
I've had a series of problems. Last week the engine management light came on when I started up in the morning. Then when I left work the DPF light came on also. The car was running ok so I spoke to the local garage to pop it in in the morning. Following morning on the way to work/garage I lost power and noticed the glow plug light had joined the light party on the dash. This was flashing though and the other two were static. Limped to the garage and dropped it in. Called at lunch saying they thought it the DPF. I called Letchworth autoway (where I'd bought the car last December) and told them the story. They took it in last Friday. It was a pressure switch that was damaged and covered by the warranty, however this had let the DPF run without regen which meant it had gone beyond 90% so was too saturated to regen. Not covered, even as consequential damage. Letchworth autoway wanted £1,740 to do the work. Told them I couldn't afford it and would pick the motor up. Pick it up yesterday. On the way back, in limp mode, the car suddenly came back to life and the glow plug light had gone out. By the time I got back to the office the DPF light had gone out. Drove home after work and by the time I was home the engine management light was also off. WTF??! Been fine today, although it does seem to lag pulling away in first gear, but this problem isn't new. It's been doing this for a few weeks and caused me to stall pulling out of junctions a few times over those weeks. No idea what is going on. Although I had entertained the idea of DPF delete when I bought the car, it was a as-and-when idea. Certainly not flush at the moment, but I'm wondering whether to have the work done anyway as I'm now worried this problem may rear it's ugly head again :/
 

cogdoc

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For the record, I've been doing a lot of experimentation on my DPF and the regen cycle. The DPF shaped error light comes on when the DPF is over 50% loaded, and it usually does an active regen once over 40% loaded ( or tries to. ) If it fails to complete an active regen twice, the coil light kicks in as well, and this will be stored as an error on Vag Com, but the light will go away on next start. If your intake flap gums up or isn't working correctly, the regen will fail. If you hobble your EGR mechanism by disconnecting it from the loom, the regen will fail in the first few seconds ( so without coding an Allards EGR delete pipe is out, unless you leave the EGR mechanism still hooked into the loom ).

The DPF will regen if heated beyond 500 degrees. There are several companies in the USA that wil bake a DPF clean. It isn't wise to regen such a loaded DPF on the car, as it can catch fire due to being so blocked, but if it was removed and baked in an oven at 600 degrres for an hour, you'd find it would be back down and it should be good for a while yet.

DPF's do eventually clog with non regen-able oil ash, and VW say this is at about 150k, but I have heard of DPF's failing at 100k in city areas where the DPF never had much chance to get hot during it's life. I recently cut one up, and learnt a lot about its makeup. The white you can see in the pics is the oil ash, that won't regen, and this is a stuffed DPF with about a quarter full of white ash. I would have expected a lot more to be honest, it didn't "appear" blocked to me.

Find yourself someone nearby with a Vag Com cable, and on the engine module you can select measuring blocks. Channel 075 is the Temp before, the temp after, and the % loading of the DPF. Channel 070 shows if a DPF regen is active in the binsry field ( 000001 ) or not when it is all zeros, and the time it has been active for. You can trigger an active regen with Vagcom in the same engine module under Coding II, using the code 21295, instructions on the Ross tech site under DPF regeneration. DON"T do that on a fully loaded DPF such as the poor bugger above, cars in the USA have burnt to the ground trying to regen overly loaded DPF's.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f28/mkv-dpf-dissection-59459.html

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Diesel_Particle_Filter_Emergency_Regeneration

http://cleandieselspecialistsinc.com/products/equipment
 
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Danno1975

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Oct 1, 2013
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Got mine booked in at a company in Nottinghamshire for next Tuesday although not sure I need it......
I've had a series of problems. Last week the engine management light came on when I started up in the morning. Then when I left work the DPF light came on also. The car was running ok so I spoke to the local garage to pop it in in the morning. Following morning on the way to work/garage I lost power and noticed the glow plug light had joined the light party on the dash. This was flashing though and the other two were static. Limped to the garage and dropped it in. Called at lunch saying they thought it the DPF. I called Letchworth autoway (where I'd bought the car last December) and told them the story. They took it in last Friday. It was a pressure switch that was damaged and covered by the warranty, however this had let the DPF run without regen which meant it had gone beyond 90% so was too saturated to regen. Not covered, even as consequential damage. Letchworth autoway wanted £1,740 to do the work. Told them I couldn't afford it and would pick the motor up. Pick it up yesterday. On the way back, in limp mode, the car suddenly came back to life and the glow plug light had gone out. By the time I got back to the office the DPF light had gone out. Drove home after work and by the time I was home the engine management light was also off. WTF??! Been fine today, although it does seem to lag pulling away in first gear, but this problem isn't new. It's been doing this for a few weeks and caused me to stall pulling out of junctions a few times over those weeks. No idea what is going on. Although I had entertained the idea of DPF delete when I bought the car, it was a as-and-when idea. Certainly not flush at the moment, but I'm wondering whether to have the work done anyway as I'm now worried this problem may rear it's ugly head again :/

Halfords have Wyns DPF fluid which is reported to lower the temp required to burn soot etc off the filter. Lots of testimonials raving about it sorting cars with filter lights on. This is my first dpf car so I'm paranoid and might use it as a preventative.

Mine gets used once or twice a week for a 12 mile each way a and B road
Semi rural commute and on occasion I'll go home via the a20/m25 for a nice 2-3,000 rpm blast but that's only 10 miles so I'm dreading a failed dpf occurring. Wish I'd researched more. Last car was a pre dpf 320d.

Generally I notice a regen every 200-400 miles or so and the car struggles a bit and has a flat spot just before I've noticed.

Only done 1000 mile so far. Cars on 98k (56 plate)