VW TDi Emissions software scandal

[adriaticman]

Why don't you just go in and see what deal they can do for you today. You are going to have wait 3 months+ for the car anyway. If your happy with a deal, disregarding what your Skoda will be worth in a few months time, surely that si what matters.

Go with your heat not your head.

Can`t argue with that but have to wait until VAG confirm what needs to be done to my car. Then I can decide / take it further. Can`t afford to lose loads on my Octavia and £27 k +- on new car.

 

[bleedsoff]

Can`t argue with that but have to wait until VAG confirm what needs to be done to my car. Then I can decide / take it further. Can`t afford to lose loads on my Octavia and £27 k +- on new car.

Fair enough. I just don't think a modification will increase any value in your car or arrest the depreciation. Car will always lose value. May just be worth seeing what deal they can do maybe to good to not to take it.

Another option is you keep your Skoda and save all your cash lol.

 

[Stegor]

some people worry to much 12 months time it will all be forgoten, VW / Diesel here to stay.

Remember this I don't http://time.com/3555696/hyundai-kia-fined-carbon-emissions/

The banks said that about PPI.
Expect a share issue next year to cover costs.

 

[nilz]

So I had the phone call today and they said sorry for the inconvenience and the issue that has been caused, a recall will be put in place, however we have no further details but when we do we will send you a letter to advise you on what to do next.

That was great!!! I already know that!!!!

 

[adriaticman]

So I had the phone call today and they said sorry for the inconvenience and the issue that has been caused, a recall will be put in place, however we have no further details but when we do we will send you a letter to advise you on what to do next.

That was great!!! I already know that!!!!

We will soon find out exactly what is planned for us. Better be good or I will go for a full refund of my purchase price + extra`s.

 

[dids]

So let's get this right most of the cars that are affected by the software scam are 3, 4 or5 years old and they want a new car in exchange ?

 

[CharlySkunkweed]

So let's get this right most of the cars that are affected by the software scam are 3, 4 or5 years old and they want a new car in exchange ?

No , if I could do a straight swap for a 2010 FR petrol no questions asked , I'd do it. I imagine they will offer a discount on a new car (pretty sure I've seen that on another forum) but not many would be willing to spend money buying new , no matter what discount is offered.

 

[Fred99]

So let's get this right most of the cars that are affected by the software scam are 3, 4 or5 years old and they want a new car in exchange ?

They are all pissing in the wind. There is no chance that the mod will make the slightest difference to the performance.

The whole thing is based around what happened in the US where the emission rules are harder than they will EVER be in the EU.

 

[Snah]

Here is a test in the German autobild magazine where the tested together with the ADAC 68 euro6 dieselcars that did an emission test how well current diesel Euro6 cars stay within the limits.
17 stayed within the limits and 51 produced more at least 14 times + the current eur6 rules..
So embaressing to read thatl:

www.autobild.de/artikel/adac-ecotest-nox-messwerte-6938223.html

 

[adriaticman]

So let's get this right most of the cars that are affected by the software scam are 3, 4 or5 years old and they want a new car in exchange ?

No. When the modifications are announced by VAG, then I will review the situation. The value of my car is dropping considerably day by day.

The longer the fix takes, the worse it is. I had already planned to change my car next year. This is now in doubt. If the VAG proposal is not acceptable / work and does not meet my satisfaction, I will proceed with legal action to obtain a refund of the purchase price in Jan 2014.

I px`d my previous Octavia FL CR DSG VRS, as my current vehicle had only done 2,300 miles from new. It cannot be replaced, as there are so few low mileage FL Octavia CR DSG VRS`s left.

Some may say so what, only a car and I have had use out of it. I would not have replaced my previous car with this one, if I knew then what I know now. How do I recover my losses and retain the car I enjoyed owning at the same time, when there is a risk that it may never be the same again? Easy to speculate, that`s why I have to wait a little longer.

Before this issue hit the fan, I was also considering adding a Bilstein B12 kit + Bluetooth / dab as a back up, if I could not find the right replacement.

 

[adriaticman]

They are all pissing in the wind. There is no chance that the mod will make the slightest difference to the performance.

The whole thing is based around what happened in the US where the emission rules are harder than they will EVER be in the EU.

We shall all see soon. Are you privy to inside information, regarding the upgrade results?

 

[dw911]

No. When the modifications are announced by VAG, then I will review the situation. The value of my car is dropping considerably day by day.

The longer the fix takes, the worse it is. I had already planned to change my car next year. This is now in doubt. If the VAG proposal is not acceptable / work and does not meet my satisfaction, I will proceed with legal action to obtain a refund of the purchase price in Jan 2014.

I can understand your frustration, but the way i look at it is that I enjoy my leons, they do what it says on the tin and as long as this issue doesn't cost me any more money now or in the future. ie higher VED or something similar, then I'm not that bothered and if I get a bit of cash back from VAG as way of an apology, that's a bonus ( not holding my breath)

VAG lied, Yes, but so do most companies- I bought some Lynx and im still waiting for scantily clad models to chase me across the beach-


Now i do admire your tanasaty,
But
There's a whole host of legal arguments/precedent why your unlikely too ever obtain a full refund of your 2014 purchase price back, unless
1. VAG decided to offer it out the goodness of their hearts - highly unlikely as they wouldn't want to be setting a precedent which could ultimately end in them fully refunding every customer effected , it would bankrupt VAG

2. Your a internet billionaire with unlimited resources and several years of spare time on your hands to fight VAG for a refund through the court's and who would fight you tooth and nail to avoid losing (see end of point 1)

All just my opinion of course, but I wouldn't get too hung up on it, just enjoy the car, it still does all it did when you bought it and the roof for second hand vag cars hasn't appeared to have fallen in, so apart from the exhaust not being so clean as you though, what's the big deal

 

[currie09]

I can understand your frustration, but the way i look at it is that I enjoy my leons, they do what it says on the tin and as long as this issue doesn't cost me any more money now or in the future. ie higher VED or something similar, then I'm not that bothered and if I get a bit of cash back from VAG as way of an apology, that's a bonus ( not holding my breath)



VAG lied, Yes, but so do most companies- I bought some Lynx and im still waiting for scantily clad models to chase me across the beach-





Now i do admire your tanasaty,

But

There's a whole host of legal arguments/precedent why your unlikely too ever obtain a full refund of your 2014 purchase price back, unless

1. VAG decided to offer it out the goodness of their hearts - highly unlikely as they wouldn't want to be setting a precedent which could ultimately end in them fully refunding every customer effected , it would bankrupt VAG



2. Your a internet billionaire with unlimited resources and several years of spare time on your hands to fight VAG for a refund through the court's and who would fight you tooth and nail to avoid losing (see end of point 1)



All just my opinion of course, but I wouldn't get too hung up on it, just enjoy the car, it still does all it did when you bought it and the roof for second hand vag cars hasn't appeared to have fallen in, so apart from the exhaust not being so clean as you though, what's the big deal

I don't think there will be many people who bought there car because it was "clean" because in all honesty no one cares about that.
When you go to get a car you test drive it and depending on a few things (price,comfort,reliability,fuel cost and the big one how fast it is) will decide whether or not to buy a car. Sure road tax comes in but we've been told that won't change so no one really can complain that their car pollutes lots because they didn't care when they bought it.

I for one will be keeping mine just the way it is unless it becomes a legal requirement.


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[Fred99]

We shall all see soon. Are you privy to inside information, regarding the upgrade results?

No, it's just my opinion.

We will all know in January whether I am right!

 

[adriaticman]

I can understand your frustration, but the way i look at it is that I enjoy my leons, they do what it says on the tin and as long as this issue doesn't cost me any more money now or in the future. ie higher VED or something similar, then I'm not that bothered and if I get a bit of cash back from VAG as way of an apology, that's a bonus ( not holding my breath)

VAG lied, Yes, but so do most companies- I bought some Lynx and im still waiting for scantily clad models to chase me across the beach-


Now i do admire your tanasaty,
But
There's a whole host of legal arguments/precedent why your unlikely too ever obtain a full refund of your 2014 purchase price back, unless
1. VAG decided to offer it out the goodness of their hearts - highly unlikely as they wouldn't want to be setting a precedent which could ultimately end in them fully refunding every customer effected , it would bankrupt VAG

2. Your a internet billionaire with unlimited resources and several years of spare time on your hands to fight VAG for a refund through the court's and who would fight you tooth and nail to avoid losing (see end of point 1)

All just my opinion of course, but I wouldn't get too hung up on it, just enjoy the car, it still does all it did when you bought it and the roof for second hand vag cars hasn't appeared to have fallen in, so apart from the exhaust not being so clean as you though, what's the big deal

I won`t be fighting VAG, someone else would do that on my behalf should it be necessary.I am just waiting until all is revealed by VAG, then decide the best way to proceed. The price of my car is dropping considerably- fact

 

[hydrostatik]

I won`t be fighting VAG, someone else would do that on my behalf should it be necessary.I am just waiting until all is revealed by VAG, then decide the best way to proceed. The price of my car is dropping considerably- fact

Out of interest how are you measuring your cars value and how much is it dropping day by day?


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[currie09]

Out of interest how are you measuring your cars value and how much is it dropping day by day?


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I gauge it depending on how much stone chips I get on that day, oh and how many times I put the foot to the floor because surely the more emissions I emit the less the cars worth? Am I right?


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[hydrostatik]

I gauge it depending on how much stone chips I get on that day, oh and how many times I put the foot to the floor because surely the more emissions I emit the less the cars worth? Am I right?


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Of course!! It's well known that a car has a set number of emissions inside from new and the car drops in value until your emissions tank is completely empty. At this point you can trade in or get it refilled by having the 'fix' done to your car.

That's a wrap people.


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[JMAC]

If you have disposable funds to fight VAG via the legal system then you shouldn't really be worrying about a few quid depreciation (and that's IF you can prove there's a difference between normal depreciation Vs post emissions scandal depreciation).

 

[pj106]

How is it possible to work out if a car is depreciating faster than you thought it would? When you buy a car it's probably going to be worth between 40 - 50% of it's original value after 3 years. That's assuming the car has done average miles and is in pretty good condition - and even then it depends on market conditions at the time such as new car discounts offered, new models coming out and how popular the model is by then.

I'd be surprised if anyone gets compensation in the form of a cash payment based on this, more likely as has been said previously that they will just offer better discounts on new cars to those affected or maybe free servicing etc...

Just my opinion