Hi,

I have tried to perform the update for my unit (MIB2 High); I'm currently on 430, but the update to 450 did not work.

I have tried to add new FEC via addfec.txt in M.I.B but it won't apply to the unit.

Is there anything I might be missing or doing incorrectly? I'm currently on firmware: MHI2_ER_SEG1L_P4709_1 _1447
Yes I had quite a conversation with Taztosa who has a Seat Mib2 High like you on the Briskoda site


If you look at their firmware release I believe it's the same as yours. They did a bit of footwork renaming a directory if you look at their last post after I clarified what they had done. The issue I think is that the Mr Bonk stuff is designed to work with specific software releases. They had installed 1447 AIO which it was not seeing. But that renaming or whatever they said which I enquired about did the trick. You do after doing the addFeC need to reboot the unit via the long hold on, the on/off button which I thought they were stuck on but my interpretation was the Github Mr Bonk stuff was not interfacing with 1447 AIO, if it was just 1447 they would have been OK.

Its one of those processes you only do once and forget about. Also think the program had been redesigned from when I used it 5 years ago. So they were on MHI2_ER_SEG11_P4709 1447 then had to do that:


So yes...
 
Yes I had quite a conversation with Taztosa who has a Seat Mib2 High like you on the Briskoda site


If you look at their firmware release I believe it's the same as yours. They did a bit of footwork renaming a directory if you look at their last post after I clarified what they had done. The issue I think is that the Mr Bonk stuff is designed to work with specific software releases. They had installed 1447 AIO which it was not seeing. But that renaming or whatever they said which I enquired about did the trick. You do after doing the addFeC need to reboot the unit via the long hold on, the on/off button which I thought they were stuck on but my interpretation was the Github Mr Bonk stuff was not interfacing with 1447 AIO, if it was just 1447 they would have been OK.

Its one of those processes you only do once and forget about. Also think the program had been redesigned from when I used it 5 years ago. So they were on MHI2_ER_SEG11_P4709 1447 then had to do that:


So yes...
Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I have renamed the patch map to "MHI2_ER_SEG11_P4709_1_MU1447_PATCH" but still the unit won't update the FEC.

I will attach screenshot of the sdcard.

After I used M.I.B. to add the FEC, I used long hold for on/off, but nothing was added to the unit.
 

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Thank you for your answer. Unfortunately, I have renamed the patch map to "MHI2_ER_SEG11_P4709_1_MU1447_PATCH" but still the unit won't update the FEC.

I will attach screenshot of the sdcard.
You should be able to communicate with the developer via a link on the github site. That had to be done once when someone in Australia used the tool but left them with European FeCs. I told them the issue but they were unable to do it themselves. That FeC list should preserve the line feed, carriage return that was in it originally. So the file end, however it originally ended, needs to be maintained. Old programming thing that you had to lookout for.

Basically you backup, then run that command. Then after it's done it's thing, introduce a reboot else it doesn't refresh itself.
 
You should be able to communicate with the developer via a link on the github site. That had to be done once when someone in Australia used the tool but left them with European FeCs. I told them the issue but they were unable to do it themselves. That FeC list should preserve the line feed, carriage return that was in it originally. So the file end, however it originally ended, needs to be maintained. Old programming thing that you had to lookout for.

Basically you backup, then run that command. Then after it's done it's thing, introduce a reboot else it doesn't refresh itself.
I will see if I can get it to work somehow. Thank you for your help!
 
I will see if I can get it to work somehow. Thank you for your help!
Basically I think once you have done that backup command then it will write back to the SD card... that's the back which I think is the clue of what Taztosa is talking about. Hopefully it will stick out like a saw thumb. The program has been re-written from when I used it, so I'm not recognising what I remember which was a sequence of difference software. Been generalised now I think so it will only be after it's run with that backup I reckon you'll see what's being talked about. The source I can't see it in un run.
 
Basically I think once you have done that backup command then it will write back to the SD card... that's the back which I think is the clue of what Taztosa is talking about. Hopefully it will stick out like a saw thumb. The program has been re-written from when I used it, so I'm not recognising what I remember which was a sequence of difference software. Been generalised now I think so it will only be after it's run with that backup I reckon you'll see what's being talked about. The source I can't see it in un run.
Hi,

I can confirm that the backup did it, but I needed to remove the previous backup before starting a new one.

So now I have the Skoda FEC (08300008) applied and maps 450.


Thank you for your help!
 
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Hi everyone,
I have an Audi Q5 equipped with the MMI MIB2 Standard system, currently running the 2024 maps. I downloaded the new 2026 Europe maps from the link posted by Tell, but I noticed that the file format and structure are completely different from my current version.
Does anyone know if I need to do a firmware update to install them? Or are these new maps simply not compatible with the Audi MMI MIB2 Standard unit? Thanks in advance!
 
Well according to MartiniB of the Briskoda site they are compatible with

cross compatible on:

Škoda Amundsen (MIB2),
Seat Navi (MIB2),
VW Discover Media2 (MIB2),
Audi MMI ?-?-? (MIB2),

MAN Media VAN Navigation

Those question marks probably means he doesnt know exactly. You can use the Mib Helper site put together by hobbyists which give you a link to recent map files. Obviously if they haven't updated the map file link it wont be so upto date. You put your software train in then you take the map.

Fill that box in with your Audi train


Click the map link and download what it says and compare with what you have. There are mib1 SD map files about, so you might be on that. 480 was the last "free" one. Took you too 2023. You say you are on 2024. Its conceivable that there are mib1 maps files for 2024 which were bought on SD card.

It could be that MartiniB like me isnt totally familiar with Audi files. Are you sure it's not mib3. That came on builds after 2020 or so.

I have seen some odd Audi map files in the past which arent, mib1, mib2 or mib3 maps 🤔. They had recognisable names in them for map file attributes but not as we know them. Eggnog etc. Mib2 high but not in the mib2 high file layout that we known. Conceivable you might have a format that never caught on outside Audi on the other brands.

Anyhow if the user community that wrote mib helper have it updated it should point you in the right direction. If mib3 have a look at the Leon 4 thread where there is a sticky thread to the latest offline mib3 files. Suspect it might be an infotainment unit that never caught on, a precursor to the mib2 high... or one that got left behind when they moved to mib3.
 
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Tell, thanks for the reply! I originally downloaded the 2026 maps from the MIB-helper.com platform, and that's when I realized they are different from how the maps were up until 2024. I couldn't get them to work then, just as I haven't been able to now. I need to look into it further; I think I'm making a mistake somewhere, after all.
 
Well Audi do use mapcare, so if you haven't got life long navigation FeCs then you might run off the end of what's allowed. Audi drivers with mib2 high use the github project to adjust. Even if its not a mib2 high but some other variation of the mib2 standard, the car will be sensitive to the navigation FeCs. So you need to check whether that is your stumbling block.

Read your FeC table and google what each one is and what is said about it. You will find one of those is your navigation FeC. I gave the Audi mib2 high long life one above. The navigation FeC will also define what maps are suitable and send you on the right course.

You do have a map card ?. If its not using a mapcard then it's not a mib2 "standard". As said I did see esoteric Audi files that contained mib2 high directory names in them but were not actually the mib2 high files as we know them on VW, Skoda and Seat. Some other setup.

Expect Audi boards don't resolve your issue.
 
TMC UK Services mib2 standard and high

Just a note to say those that took steps to gain TMC services in the UK after Trafficmaster stopped transmitting the data three years ago (Vag provider and others) using the Inrix alternative provider... all has been good for more than three years with the Inrix service... however all good things come to an end, and this seems to be one of them.

Looking decidedly finished although there doesn't appear to be much mention of it online.The service was used by Jaguar Landrover and others. So it appears no more annotated delays marked up on your built in mib2 mapping system and alternative route, but if you didn't take steps to receive Inrix services, no change to how it's been.... that you have not been getting them. ;)
 
TMC UK Services mib2 standard and high

Just a note to say those that took steps to gain TMC services in the UK after Trafficmaster stopped transmitting the data three years ago (Vag provider and others) using the Inrix alternative provider... all has been good for more than three years with the Inrix service... however all good things come to an end, and this seems to be one of them.

Looking decidedly finished although there doesn't appear to be much mention of it online.The service was used by Jaguar Landrover and others. So it appears no more annotated delays marked up on your built in mib2 mapping system and alternative route, but if you didn't take steps to receive Inrix services, no change to how it's been.... that you have not been getting them. ;)
I did notice this on the way to Heathrow last Thursday morning. I wondered if it was a transmitter fault at Wrotham - it has happened before. It is a shame if the service is gone for good. The service is provided under a license issued by Ofcom. I have not seen anything from Ofcom saying that INRIX have surrendered the licence. They certainly should have notified Ofcom if they did decide to cease the service.
 
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I did notice this on the way to Heathrow last Thursday morning. I wondered if it was a transmitter fault at Wrotham - it has happened before. It is a shame if the service is gone for good. The service is provided under a license issued by Ofcom. I have not seen anything from Ofcom saying that INRIX have surrendered the licence. They certainly should have notified Ofcom if they did decide to cease the service.
Yes I have been searching boards but other than Ben on the Briskoda board all is quite. Was hoping that the "experts" on TMC would step forward. Perhaps it's just fizzled out on those brands that used it via TMC Capital FM. Ben is still checking his unit, I've been looking but no, TMC is showing that cross through it.
 
Good day, I'm a new member of the forum. I landed here after trying to update my Seat Alhambra 7N MIB2 cards on the SD card to the latest 2025/2026 releases from mib-helper. I have the same problem, that the navigation system says "No navigation data available" after I inserted the SD card with the updated contents (of course unpacked the 7z file beforehand). There is not metainfo2.txt file in the root in the downloaded archive. I also tried copying over the old one but in vain.
Do I understand this correctly, that I need to update my software train or add additional FECs to my MIB2 this time, before I can use the latest map updates? I never had to do anything like that in the past, just downloading the files, writing to SD card and voila!
I have updated my software train to 478 early this year, due to the 0:00/6:28 headunit clock bug.

What is needed now exactly so I can use the update on my older Alhambra please? Is it compatible at all? I have the MIB2 with 2 SD card slots right in the unit (I think it's the Technisat model). Do I need a software update for the navigation system itself?

I've also tried the links from the briskoda.net forum with the same result.
 
Good day, I'm a new member of the forum. I landed here after trying to update my Seat Alhambra 7N MIB2 cards on the SD card to the latest 2025/2026 releases from mib-helper. I have the same problem, that the navigation system says "No navigation data available" after I inserted the SD card with the updated contents (of course unpacked the 7z file beforehand). There is not metainfo2.txt file in the root in the downloaded archive. I also tried copying over the old one but in vain.
Do I understand this correctly, that I need to update my software train or add additional FECs to my MIB2 this time, before I can use the latest map updates? I never had to do anything like that in the past, just downloading the files, writing to SD card and voila!
I have updated my software train to 478 early this year, due to the 0:00/6:28 headunit clock bug.

What is needed now exactly so I can use the update on my older Alhambra please? Is it compatible at all? I have the MIB2 with 2 SD card slots right in the unit (I think it's the Technisat model). Do I need a software update for the navigation system itself?

I've also tried the links from the briskoda.net forum with the same result.
I suspect you didn't follow the workaround instructions and lost your overall.nds file (all is not lost if that happens). Using the one on the download rather than the one you had. Mib2 Helper doesn't take into accounts the wrinkles of the Seat mib2 standard. If its not that you may have reformatted the card rather than deleting the contents. That operation can change the sector size of the card then it refuses to read the card or at worst corrupt the card. In the later case you need a new card bought off a reliable ebay seller any Vag mib2 card.

First things first you need the resource and the section


The section is headed "workaround" and gives you the 1-12 steps. Now if you swiped the card clean without taking a copy of the overall.nds file read this section that is below.

Lost, Stolen and Missing Cards from a Mib2 Standard Unit

It gets you to an all encompassing overall.nds that is good for all releases if you happen to delete the matching one with the original card. Basically a navigation FeC is generated when the original card was put in the unit. Changing map cards on a latter release without updating the FeC going forwards wont work. However back in 2017 it was discovered by one poster that moving that file retains the units ability to be updated. Posters on the board called it the "workaround". It generates another FeC which is the new FeC. Causes a bit of confusion but has a happy end. Method is down to Stefan / Exciter. That confusion leads to the unit generating a scan error which is harmless which you can't get rid off by clear errors on a coder. All units have this marker in them which there will be a lot.

Now when you accidentally loose your original overall.nds file and become stuck the solution in that post uses another facility of the design. Maps can be "downgraded" with the navigation FeC system. Using that "save all" file leads to the unit thinking its been paired with a v1 map. The workaround then goes into play as per the steps above and all is good.

Generally when changing map cards you force a reboot by the long press on the on / off switch. There is that 20 minute window where it retains what is read. Swapping the map cards within the 20 minute window means it is still set up on the old maps. Good practice of a map update using the workaround is to force a reboot but that wont help if you havent done the workaround.

That just leaves us with whether reformatting the card rather than just deleting the contents has changed the cluster size. That should be set back to 4096 bytes. That's the size for the original 16gb Vag card. The unit's aren't PCs so aren't happy with the cluster size being grossly changed. Some formatting programs do that these days. But you should never reformat, just do a delete. The protected area of the card that contains the CID can get swiped if the cluster size is changed.

If the SD card is corrupted then you have to buy a new one from a reliable seller. It has been known that reformatting rather than just doing a delete all entries on it leads to a corrupted card.

BTW there is one overall.nds file that you look for as per above. Some people in the past don't follow the steps. If it says overall.nds in a different directory other than the one named ... no. Some people dont know the difference between files and directories so end up changing all files in that step named. No. Just the file.
 
"I suspect you didn't follow the workaround instructions and lost your overall.nds file (all is not lost if that happens). "

Sorry, wdym? Was this part of the SD card or something I should have held keep-sake during the firmware upgrade process of the MIB2 to fix the time bug?

I still have the SD card here with me which works (2023 maps) and a new one with the lastest download. I don't have such an overall.nds on it?
Was this also needed for past updates? I updated every year, without issues by downloading from the public Seat download area. This time is the first time I used mib-helper to get the map update.
 
"I suspect you didn't follow the workaround instructions and lost your overall.nds file (all is not lost if that happens). "

Sorry, wdym? Was this part of the SD card or something I should have held keep-sake during the firmware upgrade process of the MIB2 to fix the time bug?

I still have the SD card here with me which works (2023 maps) and a new one with the lastest download. I don't have such an overall.nds on it?
Was this also needed for past updates? I updated every year, without issues by downloading from the public Seat download area. This time is the first time I used mib-helper to get the map update.
Its got nothing to do with the software update you did. Just follow those 12 steps and the maps only work on a navigation SD card. You probably knew that. So it wont work on a regular SD card. Take a back up copy of the navigation card. Juggle that overall.nds file as instructed and it will work using your original navigation SD. That's step 9.

If you didn't do step 9 on a Seat it wont work unless you were fortunate enough to have a late 2019 car when Seat aligned themselves to the rest of the Vag group. Those cars had the unlimited navigation FeC on them them the same as Skoda and VW. Part of the alignment to ditch mapcare which subsequently happened. Anything mib2 standard not in that window in 2019 you need to use the workaround on or have the navigation FeCs adjusted. Retrofitters offer that service but just as easy to use the workaround. In the 9 year period of the workaround there havent been any cars it wont work on.

There is a link in the resource as to how to tell whether you have one of those 2019 units.
 
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OK, will do, thanks! I still have the original card, but I've also flipped the CID check bit during the firmware upgrade, so it should now also work with any other SD card, not just the overpriced SEAT cards right?
 
OK, will do, thanks! I still have the original card, but I've also flipped the CID check bit during the firmware upgrade, so it should now also work with any other SD card, not just the overpriced SEAT cards right?
That could be your problem. Can you also not use the word "firmware" just software since it put your posts onto pre mod.

The board doesn't condone firmware changes so every time you say that word the only person who sees that post is the moderators.

Problem with modded "software" it doesn't behave as you expect. If that was an original copy of the software you wouldn't have had an issue. Hobbyists learnt how to modify the "software" in mib2, once modified the software obviously is not the original. You should see a signature bank at the end of the file. If you don't see that signature bank its been modified. The mib2 standard toolkit will also fiddle with these files / unit.

Anyhow mib3 / 4 that back end door has been slammed shut and connected cars are held together with sticky paper and glue so fiddling with said software in them is plain daft since the user is locked out of the 5f module so any action to rectify what has been put in, can't be done. Those files are original since they can't be changed but may not be the correct file similar to mib2 standard trains and in anycase other updates need applying outside of the infotainment unit.