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Ok, read about the stuff. 14.7 x lambda value.

Anything below 14.7 is rich.
Anything above 14.7 is lean.

Correct understood? So my car is still running rich, but close to running lean?
Under full load conditions cars are mapped to run leaner than 14.7 to make better power.
It may be one of your sensors is forcing an adjustment to normal requested map values or the map is not good.
 
Dude, take a look at your logs again. Your car is giving you what your map is requesting. Your actually running rich not lean. It looks like a mapping issue to me in that the map is requesting too rich a mixture. Should be around 0.85 under full boost.

I see that, but it still runs lean? It run rich according to what the MAP requests. But the MAP shouldnt request 0.95? The remapper says he always aims for 0.78, so thats way off?

No problem, it is a difficult thing to understand. One of the other more techy guys should be along soon to give a better explanation to help you resolve your problem.

Carl, his car is running dangerously lean under load.
 
DPJ: From what my tiny brain can understand now, is that the map request the wrong values? And that this could not happened from a simple MAF change?
 
Hmmm... Then I really cant do anything else than wait till tomorrow, so the remapper can take a look at it.

Could this also be the reason why the MAF only flows 197 g/sec and RR at 242 hp?
 
Firstly who's re-mapped it?? it sounds possibly like a mapping issue. If you bypass the 249 valve this may cause you to run lean for 0.5-1.0 sec but i wouldn't have thought this would be causing your running horribly lean problem (white plugs is a good sign of this)

first step, if you have adjustabe mapping (like revo sps) would be to put your map to standard asap before you melt pistons!!!

I dont know what level of tune they have put your motor to but for some reason (poss o2, hotwire, fuel pressure, too much boost map its self etc etc etc) your running lean take it straight to a good tuner (REVO, AMD etc) and have them look at it -- your engine depends on this!
 
I could reverse it again, the bypass again... to be on the sure side... but how should this be able to alter the requested values?

It's a danish remapper, so no worries in the UK :eek:)
 
It's a danish remapper, so no worries in the UK :eek:)

what are the laws about vehicle modifying around there?? i think your problems are possibly map related, 249 will only cause fault for a very short perid of time (VAG should so use wideband 02 sensors) i would find out what he hass you boosting to etc. may even be dirty injectors?

one thing is for sure you need more fuel or less air... wind turbo down or increase fuel pressue to suit this map. i would definately ring another reputable tuner and see what they think of those requested values etc.
 
Isnt the ignition a bit wierd?

Code:
Group A:	'115				Group B:	'003			
	RPM	Load	Absolute Pres,	Absolute Pres,		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign, Timing
TIME					TIME				
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °ATDC
576,14	1120	66,9	1010	1020	575,42	1040	8,56	7,1	24
577,53	1400	61,7	1000	1070	576,83	1240	16,28	13,3	17,3
578,73	1560	39,8	1000	1050	578,14	1480	14,72	11,4	24
579,78	1640	76,7	1630	1020	579,31	1600	11,11	8,6	30,8
580,92	1960	88	1650	1200	580,33	1800	30,14	80,4	18,8
582,17	2440	120,3	2060	1550	581,55	2160	45,64	88,6	14,3
583,28	3120	191,7	2330	2520	582,76	2760	88,47	97,3	12
584,47	4040	191,7	2550	2540	583,87	3600	131,44	100	8,3
585,69	4880	191,7	2440	2370	585,06	4480	173,14	100	14,3
586,9	5560	180,5	2220	2230	586,26	5240	189,25	100	12,8
588,23	6200	143,6	1780	2020	587,61	5920	197,14	100	10,5
589,62	5000	100	2340	1240	588,94	6440	162,72	76,9	12
590,81	5400	185,7	2270	2270	590,22	5200	187,72	100	8,3
591,92	5760	164,7	2010	2270	591,34	5600	191,86	100	9,8
593,06	6040	148,9	1770	1920	592,5	5920	170,22	51,4	13,5
594,34	6240	132,3	1720	1720	593,69	6120	153,39	51,8	20,3
595,64	6200	14,3	1010	1270	594,94	6360	165,14	99,6	19,5
596,97	5200	12,8	1010	1050	596,25	5720	11,22	9,4	6,8
598,34	4040	12	1010	1040	597,65	4640	11,25	8,2	4,5
599,67	3000	13,5	1010	1030	598,97	3520	8,5	6,7	3
 
hmmmm... i'm not an expert on maps (i just have to pull things apart and rebuild them quick between races) I think the car should be requesting fuel dependant on mass/air, engine load, air temp etc and not the mapper suggesting fuel req'd values. does he set up on a rolling road or set up with vag com on a drive? are there no big name tuners out there?? failing that take the ecu off and send it to AMD/REVO and they'll prog it on the bench... i think your tuners a little out of his depth??

as far as i know even though my revo sps has a fuel adjustment option it will not function on the Leon as the engine ECU knows best as its constantly monitoring air/mixture all be it with pants o2 sensors (dam you again vw audi!)
 
Isnt the ignition a bit wierd?

Code:
Group A:	'115				Group B:	'003			
	RPM	Load	Absolute Pres,	Absolute Pres,		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign, Timing
TIME					TIME				
STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	%	 °ATDC
576,14	1120	66,9	1010	1020	575,42	1040	8,56	7,1	24
577,53	1400	61,7	1000	1070	576,83	1240	16,28	13,3	17,3
578,73	1560	39,8	1000	1050	578,14	1480	14,72	11,4	24
579,78	1640	76,7	1630	1020	579,31	1600	11,11	8,6	30,8
580,92	1960	88	1650	1200	580,33	1800	30,14	80,4	18,8
582,17	2440	120,3	2060	1550	581,55	2160	45,64	88,6	14,3
583,28	3120	191,7	2330	2520	582,76	2760	88,47	97,3	12
584,47	4040	191,7	2550	2540	583,87	3600	131,44	100	8,3
585,69	4880	191,7	2440	2370	585,06	4480	173,14	100	14,3
586,9	5560	180,5	2220	2230	586,26	5240	189,25	100	12,8
588,23	6200	143,6	1780	2020	587,61	5920	197,14	100	10,5
589,62	5000	100	2340	1240	588,94	6440	162,72	76,9	12
590,81	5400	185,7	2270	2270	590,22	5200	187,72	100	8,3
591,92	5760	164,7	2010	2270	591,34	5600	191,86	100	9,8
593,06	6040	148,9	1770	1920	592,5	5920	170,22	51,4	13,5
594,34	6240	132,3	1720	1720	593,69	6120	153,39	51,8	20,3
595,64	6200	14,3	1010	1270	594,94	6360	165,14	99,6	19,5
596,97	5200	12,8	1010	1050	596,25	5720	11,22	9,4	6,8
598,34	4040	12	1010	1040	597,65	4640	11,25	8,2	4,5
599,67	3000	13,5	1010	1030	598,97	3520	8,5	6,7	3

It's maybe pulling back because of the lean running higher up the range. Have you logged 003 and 020 (not that we should be encouraging you to drive it under load.........)
 
Remapper suggested lambda change, which I did, changed absolutely nothing... hurray...

Code:
Group A:	'031		'115			
	Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor	RPM	Load	Absolute Pres,	Absolute Pres,
TIME						
STAMP			 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
475,65	0,992	1	720	20,3	1000	1000
477,57	1,023	1	880	33,1	1000	1000
479,57	0,992	1	960	30,1	1000	1000
481,28	0,977	1	1040	38,3	1000	1000
483,06	1,016	1	1160	74,4	1420	1020
484,89	0,969	0,953	1480	82,7	1540	1150
487,04	0,953	0,953	1920	97	1670	1320
489,06	0,977	0,953	2440	138,3	2090	1810
490,76	0,953	0,953	3080	180,5	2310	2320
492,48	0,938	0,953	3760	191,7	2550	2530
494,46	0,945	0,953	4520	191,7	2540	2490
496,39	0,938	0,953	5200	191,7	2280	2310
498,42	0,867	0,86	5800	172,2	1960	2050