new logs.. cf still poor

[james walker]

how do i do that bill.... via unisettings?

thanks

 

[DPJ]

how do i do that bill.... via unisettings?

thanks

Channel 02.

Well worth a try to see the effect.

 

[james walker]

so add 10% via fuelling on increasing load section on unisettings??

 

[james walker]

beat me to it with the edit dave.

ill give it a go, no adverse effects from this.....

 

[james walker]

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'020			
	Engine Speed	Intake Air Mass	Throttle Drive	Ignition		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Cylinder 1 Ignition	Cylinder 2 Ignition	Cylinder 3 Ignition	Cylinder 4 Ignition
TIME			Angle Sensor 1	Timing Angle	TIME			(specified Value)	(actual Value)	TIME	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW
0.3	2600	65.42	97.6	19.5	0.61	2720	130.8	1750	1740	0.01	0	0	0	0
1.21	3000	79.53	100	9.8	1.51	3120	140.6	1840	1770	0.91	0	3	3	6
2.11	3400	106.08	100	8.3	2.42	3520	169.2	2060	2130	1.81	0	3	3	6
3.02	3840	113.78	31.8	11.3	3.32	3960	123.3	1560	1650	2.72	0	2.3	2.3	5.3
3.93	4200	121.75	98	18.8	4.23	4320	169.9	2030	2140	3.62	3	2.3	2.3	5.3
4.83	4680	162.06	100	9	5.13	4840	178.9	2060	2210	4.53	3	5.3	8.3	5.3
5.75	5120	170.78	100	12.8	6.04	5280	173.7	2050	2090	5.44	6	5.3	8.3	4.5
6.64	5560	175.94	100	9.8	6.95	5680	162.4	2020	1990	6.34	6	8.3	8.3	4.5
7.56	5920	173.78	100	8.3	7.86	6000	154.1	1980	1910	7.25	5.3	8.3	7.5	3.8
8.45	6200	175.69	100	9	8.75	6280	147.4	1900	1840	8.16	5.3	7.5	7.5	3.8
9.37	6440	171.86	100	16.5	9.66	6520	138.3	1840	1780	9.06	4.5	7.5	6.8	3.8

Group C:	'020				
	Cylinder 1 Ignition	Cylinder 2 Ignition	Cylinder 3 Ignition	Cylinder 4 Ignition	
TIME	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	
STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW	
0.28	0	0	0	0	
0.58	0	0	0	0	
0.88	0	0	3	3	
1.18	0	0	3	3	
1.49	0	0	3	3	
1.79	0	0	3	3	
2.09	3	0	3	3	
2.39	3	3	3	3	
2.69	3	3	3	3	
2.99	3	3	3	3	
3.31	3	3	3	3	
3.6	3	3	3	3	
3.9	3	6	6	6	
4.21	3	6	6	6	
4.5	3	6	6	6	
4.81	3	6	6	6	
5.11	3	6	6	6	
5.41	3	6	6	6	
5.71	2.3	6	6	6	
6.02	2.3	6	6	6	
6.32	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
6.62	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
6.93	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
7.22	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
7.53	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
7.83	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
8.13	2.3	5.3	5.3	5.3	
8.43	1.5	4.5	4.5	4.5	
8.74	1.5	4.5	4.5	4.5	
9.04	1.5	4.5	4.5	4.5	
9.34	1.5	4.5	4.5	4.5

logs with 10% fuelling added guys.. well 10.125%

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'118				Group C:	'031		
	Engine Speed	Intake Air Mass	Throttle Drive	Ignition		Engine Speed	Intake Air	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Lambda Sensor	Lambda Sensor	Bin. Bits
TIME			Angle Sensor 1	Timing Angle	TIME		Temperature	Solenoid Valve	(actual Value)	TIME	Current Value	Specified Value	
STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar	STAMP			
0.6	2760	76.92	100	14.3	0.01	2520	20	0	1050	0.3	0.914	1	        
1.51	3240	117.17	100	7.5	0.91	2920	21	86.3	2050	1.21	0.992	1	        
2.42	3760	138.22	100	3.8	1.81	3440	23	81.2	2350	2.11	0.953	0.953	        
3.32	4280	147.78	100	6.8	2.72	3920	24	82.7	2410	3.02	0.93	0.945	        
4.24	4800	161.86	100	9	3.62	4440	27	82.7	2310	3.92	0.891	0.906	        
5.13	5240	174.31	99.6	7.5	4.54	4920	30	83.1	2210	4.83	0.899	0.899	        
6.05	5640	175.69	100	9	5.43	5360	33	83.5	2090	5.73	0.883	0.883	        
6.95	6000	177.61	100	8.3	6.35	5760	36	84.3	2000	6.64	0.883	0.875	        
7.86	6280	173.75	100	12	7.25	6080	38	82.7	1940	7.55	0.867	0.883

 

[Backdraft]

Have you done a log of 020 since adding the fuel?

 

[james walker]

Yeah, the 2nd log down guys, added the last log after i posted

 

[Damoegan]

Requested still looks lean to me..

 

[Backdraft]

Is yours narrow or wide band lambda?

 

[Damoegan]

Is yours narrow or wide band lambda?

Its a LC, which are wide band I think.

 

[james walker]

could it be a lambda problem? no fault codes present.

 

[rsmith]

could it be a lambda problem? no fault codes present.

Did you ever get your CF's sorted James, i was suffering high CF's on my mapped LCR, it was probably due to the crappy 95 ron they sell over here, anyways i fitted a universal FMIC and it made a big difference, to temp reading and in turn the CF's, may be worth a try, only cost me £250 all in, but i fitted it myself. Maybe its worth a shot!

Before

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Degrees	Degrees	Degrees	Degrees
TSTAMP	RPM	g/s	%	°	TSTAMP	CF	CF	CF	CF
0	1280	7.67	5.9	27.8 B	0.58	0	0	0	3
1.22	1120	8.06	6.3	23.3 B	2.19	0	0	0	3
2.82	2040	35.42	86.7	18.0 B	3.41	0	0	0	0
4.02	1920	5.36	3.9	7.5 B	4.61	0	0	0	0
5.22	1200	6.89	5.5	28.5 B	5.85	0	0	0	0
6.81	880	13.7	36.9	8.3 B	7.46	0	3	0	3
8.45	1120	18.22	49.8	1.5 B	9.03	0	2.3	0	2.3
9.66	1280	22.64	60	6.8 B	10.65	0	3	0	0
11.27	1520	29.39	71	9.8 B	12.28	0	3	3	0
13.27	1920	41.22	86.7	10.5 B	13.88	0	3	0	0
14.5	2200	59.7	94.1	9.0 B	15.47	0	2.3	3	6
16.1	2720	114.5	100	1.5 A	17.1	0	1.5	2.3	5.3
18.1	3480	129.44	100	4.5 B	18.74	0	1.5	2.3	4.5
19.71	4080	152.47	100	6.8 B	20.32	3	3.8	3.8	3
21.35	4680	178.72	100	8.3 B	22.38	8.3	6	6.8	5.3
23.34	5320	187.47	100	8.3 B	23.97	8.3	9	6	4.5
24.96	5720	194.44	100	6.8 B	25.95	7.5	8.3	9	4.5
26.59	6000	198.11	44.7	5.3 A	27.6	0	0	0	0

After:

Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020			
	RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Degrees	Degrees	Degrees	Degrees
TSTAMP	RPM	g/s	%	°	TSTAMP	CF	CF	CF	CF
0	800	3.56	2.4	3.0 B	0.61	0	0	0	0
1.22	760	3.58	2.4	5.3 B	1.8	0	0	0	0
2.44	760	3.5	2.4	4.5 B	3.02	0	0	0	0
3.64	800	3.5	2.4	2.3 B	4.23	0	0	0	0
4.84	1600	23.86	59.2	14.3 B	5.45	0	0	0	0
6.07	1400	18.36	12.9	19.5 B	7.04	0	0	0	0
7.68	2360	39.58	23.9	23.3 B	8.66	0	0	0	0
9.27	3360	5.81	5.5	1.5 A	9.86	0	0	0	0
10.49	1640	14.03	9.4	27.0 B	11.49	0	0	0	0
12.1	1880	36.45	85.5	12.0 B	12.7	0	0	0	0
13.31	2280	59	94.9	10.5 B	14.29	0	0	0	0
14.92	3120	127.03	100	3.0 B	15.51	0	3	0	0
16.1	3920	146.97	100	6.0 B	16.71	0	3	0	0
17.33	4640	176.61	100	9.0 B	18.33	3	2.3	3	3
18.94	5560	189.97	100	12.0 B	19.54	3	0.8	2.3	2.3
20.14	6080	198.42	99.6	12.0 B	20.75	2.3	0.8	2.3	2.3
21.34	6520	199.72	100	15.8 B	21.93	2.3	0	1.5	1.5
22.56	5600	9.22	9	5.3 B	23.16	0	0	0	0

 

[james walker]

fmic now fitted, going to log tomorrow and ill post them up

 

[james walker]

logs now added after fmic install

	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'115				Group C:	'020			
		Engine Speed	Intake Air Mass	Throttle Drive	Ignition		Engine Speed	Engine Load	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Cylinder 1 Ignition	Cylinder 2 Ignition	Cylinder 3 Ignition	Cylinder 4 Ignition
	TIME			Angle Sensor 1	Timing Angle	TIME			(specified Value)	(actual Value)	TIME	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay	Angle Delay
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	 %	 mbar	 mbar	STAMP	°KW	°KW	°KW	°KW
	0.01	2640	30.28	18.4	26.3	0.25	2720	89.5	1570	1210	0.56	0	0	3	0
	0.86	2960	88.5	100	11.3	1.16	3080	163.2	2140	2070	1.46	0	0	3	3
	1.76	3440	111.69	100	7.5	2.06	3600	161.7	2080	2080	2.37	0	0	3	3
	2.67	3920	127.61	100	9	2.97	4080	163.9	2110	2140	3.27	0	0	2.3	3
	3.57	4400	144.03	100	9.8	3.88	4600	172.9	2020	2080	4.18	3	3	2.3	2.3
	4.48	4920	159.28	100	10.5	4.78	5040	169.9	2050	2040	5.08	3	6	5.3	5.3
	5.38	5360	168.89	100	10.5	5.7	5520	163.2	2050	1980	5.99	2.3	6	5.3	5.3
	6.29	5760	175.14	100	11.3	6.6	5880	157.9	2000	1890	6.89	2.3	5.3	4.5	4.5
	7.21	6120	172.69	100	9.8	7.5	6200	146.6	1930	1860	7.81	2.3	5.3	4.5	4.5
	8.11	6400	171.61	100	14.3	8.41	6480	132.3	1830	1710	8.71	1.5	4.5	3.8	3.8

Saturday	6	February	2010	08:40:27											
06A 906 032 HN		1.8L R4/5VT         0002													
															
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'118				Group C:	'031			
		Engine Speed	Intake Air Mass	Throttle Drive	Ignition		Engine Speed	Intake Air	Charge Pressure	Charge Pressure		Lambda Sensor	Lambda Sensor	Bin. Bits	Bin. Bits
	TIME			Angle Sensor 1	Timing Angle	TIME		Temperature	Solenoid Valve	(actual Value)	TIME	Current Value	Specified Value		
Marker	STAMP	 /min	 g/s	 %	 °BTDC	STAMP	 /min	°C	 %	 mbar	STAMP				
	0.25	2440	35.56	21.2	23.3	0.55	2520	15	9.8	1250	0.02	0.984	1	        	        
	1.16	2720	68.89	99.2	18.8	1.46	2880	13	74.1	1700	0.86	0.945	1	        	        
	2.06	3160	84.92	100	13.5	2.36	3280	12	75.7	1860	1.76	1	1	        	        
	2.97	3600	105.94	100	12	3.27	3760	12	84.7	2110	2.67	0.984	1	        	        
	3.87	4080	131.72	100	14.3	4.18	4280	12	83.5	2130	3.57	1	1	        	        
	4.78	4600	150.33	100	11.3	5.08	4760	14	84.7	2100	4.48	0.953	0.969	        	        
	5.68	5080	164.69	100	10.5	5.98	5240	15	85.9	2040	5.38	0.914	0.922	        	        
	6.6	5520	168.08	100	11.3	6.89	5640	17	85.9	1910	6.3	0.906	0.906	        	        
	7.5	5880	172.14	100	12	7.81	5960	18	86.3	1790	7.2	0.883	0.899	        	        
	8.4	6160	168.11	100	14.3	8.71	6240	19	81.6	1800	8.1	0.906	0.906	        	        
	9.3	6400	167.81	100	16.5	9.62	6520	20	78.4	1660	9.01	0.891	0.906	        	        
	10.22	6680	152.64	100	23.3	10.52	6720	20	78.4	1610	9.92	0.945	0.945

comments welcome again fellas

 

[Damoegan]

cf's are better, intake temps are great, boost is fine but fueling needs looking at if you ask me. You could also do with a little more airflow..

 

[james walker]

so adding 10% fuel may be worth a shot, as i left the settings as were, didnt adjust anything.

i dialled in a little more timing but cfs rose so re adjusted back to 0

airflow was ok before, seems to have dropped slightly from previous logs. jetex filter on the way though

 

[Damoegan]

Might be worth consulting Will about the fueling mate.

I'm pulling >190g/s now with my Green Cotton filter

 

[james walker]

are you saying the requested looks too lean?

 

[Damoegan]

Yes.

Requested lambda * 14.7 = 0.906*14.7 = 13.3182 AFR. You should be aiming for 12.5 ish AFR.

 

[james walker]

could i alter this by adjusting on unisettings? i was thinking maybe there was an issue such as split hose or dodgy injectors but if its requesting that then is that what it was mapped at damien??

unisettings will change the requested right?