It's a great power-plant! Just not what many of you were hoping for in the Cupra...Cant see the 1.4TSI being a good tuner engine!
But wait it's a Cupra, shouldn't we all be...Glad I'm not the only one that thinks the engine is total piece of s.it.
The rims and the brakes are some kind of joke.
But the engine,oh that cow crap.I am speechless
Only Expense, Warranty, & Legality in some locals... To name a few!whats to stop someone sourcing a 2.0l TfSI engine from a S3, Cupra or ed30 and dropping that in
This is a new variation, yet Revo(amongst other tuners) already have a StageI remap that makes up-wards of 200hp & gives it a very Derv. like torque curve!!!I'm sure as time goes on people will be able to make these engines produce big numbers after all its a relatively new motor
But does a 1.4 tsi have much capacity for tuning? Or will it be like a vtec, very expensive to tune for such a little jump in bhpI supose power isnt everything, after all its the performance figures that matter and if the car is shaved of excess weight it will be quick enough. Im sure as time goes on people will be able to make these engines produce big numbers after all its a relatively new motor
The concept is great, the excecution not all that great. As Ive said before, the EA888 series 2.0TFSI with 211hp gives alot more power, whilst drinking alot less fuel, and being less harmful to the environment. And I took those figures from the the 1200kg golf with the 1.4 TSI 170, and the 1550kg Audi A4, so with the EA888 fitted in a lighter car such as the golf the figures would be even more impressive.My personal opinion - the TSI engine is an engineering marvel. The balance of performance & economy it foretells, along with its lower emissions, is the tale of the future...
As has been said, SEAT don't give a hoot as to whether people think it's not 'tuneable' enough - trends are governed by economic climate and the shift is to smaller & more efficient motors. I mean, do you honestly think the States would've envisioned a V6 Camaro (with talk of future 4-pot turbo-charged 'muscle cars') ten years ago?
The TSI concept is something that is going to be copied by every other manufacturer out there...
Nothing really, but would it be worth all the hassle? The extra money you will spend just gettin the engine, and then getting it fitted would allow you to buy a scirrocco or Leon with it already fitted as standard.whats to stop someone sourcing a 2.0l tfsi engine from a s3, cupra or ed30 and dropping that in
Big numbers are possible, but it will be extremely expensive, and at the expensive of driveability, and reliability!.I supose power isnt everything, after all its the performance figures that matter and if the car is shaved of excess weight it will be quick enough. Im sure as time goes on people will be able to make these engines produce big numbers after all its a relatively new motor
For smallish power increases, 40bhp or so, the 1.4 TSI will be cheap to tune, unlike the vtec as its already using forced induction and you can just increase boost etc. However I dont think we will be seeing many 300bhp + ibizas like we have with the MK3 and MK4, which is a shame.But does a 1.4 tsi have much capacity for tuning? Or will it be like a vtec, very expensive to tune for such a little jump in bhp
I know the 2.0TFSI is roughly 150kg in engine weight but I cant find any data on the 1.4TSI.VW Golf TSI 170 GT
Tech: 1390cc 4cyl, FWD, 168bhp, 177lb ft, 1271kg, 178g/km CO2
Performance: 0-62mph in 7.9secs, 136mph, 38.2mpg
VW Golf GTi 200
Tech: 1984cc 4cyl, FWD, 200bhp, 207lb ft, 1372kg, 192g/km CO2
Performance: 0-62mph in 7.2secs, 147mph, 35.3mpg
Ans is the 180TSi not a newer cleaner version of the 170TSi.
I heard a few months back the 170TSi was giving a bit of trouble, maby the 180TSi is the revised version. The 211ps look very good aswell. It has less emissions than the 125TSi in the leon
Well if anyone can verify what changes were made for the 150hp version in the Tiguan. Then that should give us some pretty good ideas as to what they've done on the 180hp debuting in the Cupra.It could very well be a revised design. The 1.4 TSI 170 has been troublesome, and some whispers are that the 180 TSI is a updated design. We will find out in October for sure!