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Hi again chaps,


Dan/ chaps,

I got a quote (£264 inc) fairly quick which is good, which states..


Diagnostics show P055F Engine oil pressure out of range.
Requires oil pressure switches.
(Diagnostics £35/ 2x switches @£48/ 1.5 hrs Labour £88/ +vat).


What do you think, would you be happy to go ahead?

Thanks, Zoot
If it was me i would get it done, even if you can get it done cheaper elsewhere it probably wouldnt be worth your time or the financial cost of getting the car recovered elsewhere and there is no guarantee that another garage would do the work based on someone else's diagnosis.
 
If it was me i would get it done, even if you can get it done cheaper elsewhere it probably wouldnt be worth your time or the financial cost of getting the car recovered elsewhere and there is no guarantee that another garage would do the work based on someone else's diagnosis.

Hi Dan thanks for such a quick respinse.

Yup I get what you say, sense tells me to go ahead even if it is a bitter pill..

But what if it's -not- the two switches, & the problem soon repeats again? I mean, from the replies & from www info, the problem could as well be a clogged filter thingy, &/ or an electrical issue.

Would you know what I could say, upon payment, to alleviate my concerns?

This for example, is a YouTube clip, showing by all accounts a P055F diagnostics printout (with the same words following it, of "Engine oil pressure out of range").. but mechanic chap saying it's in fact a filter thingy which needed de-clogging, & the switches were in fact fine.


Thanks, Zoot
 
I would ask them if as part of their diagnostics they checked the pan, as a VAG specialist i would like to think they would know of this easy solution so would have just told you that a clean was needed.

They should also do a test drive before telling you its fixed so that should determine if its fixed.

There are options available to you if it isn't fixed but let's trust the garage that they have diagnosed and will fix the problem first. I know some people dont want to trust garages but thanks to the Internet, social media and review sites, it is ill advised for most businesses to do a bad job.
 
I would ask them if as part of their diagnostics they checked the pan, as a VAG specialist i would like to think they would know of this easy solution so would have just told you that a clean was needed.

They should also do a test drive before telling you its fixed so that should determine if its fixed.

There are options available to you if it isn't fixed but let's trust the garage that they have diagnosed and will fix the problem first. I know some people dont want to trust garages but thanks to the Internet, social media and review sites, it is ill advised for most businesses to do a bad job.
Thanks I'll use your very words there & ask. I was thinking maybe I could also send the YouTube clip. The quote, was after all sent by the dealer guy I bought car from (Dealer-headed paperwork quote) rather than from XYZ Garage, Worcester. He could surely easily ping this 2-minute clip across to the mechanic on his phone.

Driving- I don't think a test drive afterwards can determine anything; if both (2 only) times the problem occurred you see, I restarted car 5 mins later, & it was fine afterwards. No sign of any issue at all. 1st time it was fine for a whole month before it resurfaced again.

Very grateful for the help, Zoot
 
I would ask them if as part of their diagnostics they checked the pan, as a VAG specialist i would like to think they would know of this easy solution so would have just told you that a clean was needed.

They should also do a test drive before telling you its fixed so that should determine if its fixed.

There are options available to you if it isn't fixed but let's trust the garage that they have diagnosed and will fix the problem first. I know some people dont want to trust garages but thanks to the Internet, social media and review sites, it is ill advised for most businesses to do a bad job.
Hi Dan,

I put this to them, but a firm reply just rcvd of:

"The quote is to change the 2 sensors if you want I can get you a quote for the other bits to be done, thanks"

So I really don't know what to do. Thanks Zoot
 
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I've had to go ahead with this- I can't wait any longer for another quote, let alone afford more than £265.

I'll update later. Thanks Zoot
 
Hi again chaps,

Just seen another pro mechanic's YouTube clip, of de-clogging the pan filter, to fix the P055F 'oil pressure not in range' diagnosis. Urgh. So now although Ive told dealer to fit the new pressure switches.. Ive 50-50 confidence this will cure the problem.

If it does go again you see I'm very rural out here, & always just me, often more than 10m from any garage (my AA breakdown only covers 10m, so I was "lucky" the AA guy agreed to tow me 15m to dealership, because he lived in the area), let alone a grg that'll be VAG competent. So I've no other option really it seems, but look into de-clogging this pan filter myself. Has anyone done this job?

Thankfully it seems nothing complicated. I just need a nM torque wrench, a new £8 part, sealant, & cleaner spray. Plus new 5l or so of new oil. I have a convenient dip/ slope @ edge of drive, to get access to engine front underside.

Thanks Zoot
 
@DanMCGARRETT Dan, sorry to ask you again: I am a bit concerned though.

The dealer whom I bought car from, Monsrch in Worcs, gave me the quote (2x oil pressure switch replacements) on suitably professional headed paperwork, a photo emailed to me, of paperwork.

They obviously use a particular garage, to MOT their cars ready for sale predominantly. IE they don't have their own mechanic-garage section, to their business. Like I know the huge local sparkly VW dealers do at the back of their premises.

I assume offering 3-month warranties as par for their sales, & also offering 12-month warranty option (£300).. that my used-car dealership, need to use their garage-mechanic to also do various jobs.

But in my case, I've been given a quote, not by any garage, but via the dealership. On dealership-headed paper. Now, should I have an issue (as said I'm a bit doomy of a 50-50 chance of the job actually fixing it) am I at a disadvantage, not getting the quote directly from the garage-mechanic? I mean whoever they even are. I don't even know the name. The job is all under the 'guidance' of/ under auspices of/ the main chap at my used car dealership.

I can't really explain it better. You see I only really had one option at the time of breakdown, of the AA towing the car.. well somewhere. All I could think was most sensible, was to get it back to dealer's. After having called them, saying I could but I'm down the list a bit as it were. Still no day known of repair.

Unusually being my parent's vicinity where I bought it, 100m from my home, I wasn't familiar with any garages to be able to choose, within 10m, that the AA guy was prepared to take it to. So my only option was back to the dealership.

Thanks for reading, Zoot
 
Yeah sometimes used car dealers use local specialists and garages to help prep the cars if they dont have their own and if something needs fixing within the 3 month warranty period the dealer would probably just pay their local garage or the customer's locsl garge to sort it. Reason being that it should only be minor things if anything that goes wrong in that time as the cars have been prepped and checked for any potential major issues.

If you buy their extended warranty it is highly likely it is one from a warranty company like warranty wise etc.

I dont think you would be at a disadvantage because most of the garages I have used in the past where they are not the main dealers, would give me a verbal price, so it could be that the specialist has given the dealer the price and to make it more professional they have put it on branded paper.
 
Yeah sometimes used car dealers use local specialists and garages to help prep the cars if they dont have their own and if something needs fixing within the 3 month warranty period the dealer would probably just pay their local garage or the customer's locsl garge to sort it. Reason being that it should only be minor things if anything that goes wrong in that time as the cars have been prepped and checked for any potential major issues.

If you buy their extended warranty it is highly likely it is one from a warranty company like warranty wise etc.

I dont think you would be at a disadvantage because most of the garages I have used in the past where they are not the main dealers, would give me a verbal price, so it could be that the specialist has given the dealer the price and to make it more professional they have put it on branded paper.
That's reassuring Dan, grateful for that. Yup seems professional paper etc, so I'll put that down as good then.

As to charging £35 to plug a computer in & wait for 3 mins.. I think that's a scandal to charge me anything. I saw the AA man do it in a few mins with no effort whatsoever.

Zoot
 
Hi again chaps,

Thankfully the new oil pressure switches, seem to have been a success. No dreaded yellow warning sign since.
Cost me £300 though, driving to-fro & the work. To fit 2x £35 switches. Urgh. Anyway they did it quickly s'pose.

Another Q if I may..

Can you get tyre pressure information on the dash? Any sensors telling you they need an air top up?

Thanks, Zoot
 
Another Q if I may..

Can you get tyre pressure information on the dash? Any sensors telling you they need an air top up?

Thanks, Zoot

Dedicated tyre pressure monitoring systems have pressure sensors on each wheel, and a control unit to interpret the data coming from them. Leon never had that feature from the factory, but there are people who retrofitted it, using the parts from other VAG cars, like Golf or Passat. This dedicated system has the ability to show pressure levels in bar/psi for each individual tyre. Yours probably doesn't have it either, if it wasn't retrofitted by a previous owner.

What Leon and other SEAT/CUPRA models have though, is another monitoring system, a simpler one, made possible by using the rotation data collected by the ABS speed sensors on each wheel. Driver initializes the system by pressing the related button on infotainment screen, and current rotation speed of each wheel is saved. Then it is constantly compared against the actual data coming from ABS speed sensors. When a threshold of difference is exceeded, it means the tyre is deflated or inflated and at that moment system is able to warn the driver about the pressure change through the instrument cluster. (No actual pressure level display, just pressure difference warning).

You can find the aforementioned tyre pressure reset/initialization option in an infotainment menu.
 
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Hi again chaps,

Thankfully the new oil pressure switches, seem to have been a success. No dreaded yellow warning sign since.
Cost me £300 though, driving to-fro & the work. To fit 2x £35 switches. Urgh. Anyway they did it quickly s'pose.

Another Q if I may..

Can you get tyre pressure information on the dash? Any sensors telling you they need an air top up?

Thanks, Zoot

IMHO the simpler indirect TPMS fitted to the Leon is adequate and does what it’s intended to do - i.e. warn of a pressure difference. The pressure sensors used by the direct TPMS aren’t infallible and they can suffer reliability issues or environmental damage.

I’m old school and I personally don’t think there’s any substitute for manually checking tyre pressures and I do mine when I do my other regular checks (i.e. under bonnet fluid levels). It doesn’t take many minutes to do and I can check them while my tyres are still cold - as they should be when checking tyre pressures - rather than having them warm up on the to drive to the nearest filling station to use their potentially inaccurate air lines that may have suffered abuse in the hands of other users. Manually checking my tyre pressures also gives me the opportunity to do a visual check of the tyres for damage at the same time.

If the air in my tyres does need to be topped up, I have a small (Ring branded) air compressor that plugs into the 12v socket in my car.