Whats being said is that they not soley for use with a sub, and do they job very well in all cars that have featured in this thread. Put out a great all round sound, not just bass.
Sub bass is hardly bass, that's why it has a sub in front of it.... you wouldn't expect any mid range speaker to do the role of a sub woofer. So the statement that they are designed for a sub woofer doesn't make sense. Saying that the place for a sub woofer is in the home not in a cars sound system in my humble view.
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