Bazzle's Ibiza Cupra GT2x Build

Bazzle

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get hybrid treatment on the turbo then:funk:

already is kinda hybrid. with a list of stuff done not handy. Sorry danny, pinched this from your thread lol

Its had

New Seals & bearings
New acutator spring
Port & Polished
Larger Compressor Wheel
360d Thrust Bearing
Bronze Bearings
Oil Restrictor
New Turbine
Larger Exhaust Hot side(ported)
New Nuts and bolts

Its kinda hybrid with a clipped k04 wheel and wrc seals were fitted.
 

Bazzle

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I think these cars look awesome with d90's Looking good Bazz

Sold my D90,s bud, on OZ ultralegras, wish i hadnt but it was to fund the turbo. Think i will have again tho. :D They were 8 and 9" wide, police really didnt like them too much lol
 

DaNnY_LaD

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already is kinda hybrid. with a list of stuff done not handy. Sorry danny, pinched this from your thread lol

Its had

New Seals & bearings
New acutator spring
Port & Polished
Larger Compressor Wheel
360d Thrust Bearing
Bronze Bearings
Oil Restrictor
New Turbine
Larger Exhaust Hot side(ported)
New Nuts and bolts

Its kinda hybrid with a clipped k04 wheel and wrc seals were fitted.

are you 100% its the seals as vr turbos fitted uprated seals to this...as the stock atp were crap and thin...

il give u a bell later about it baz....see what i can do..
 

jamiebennett81

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hmmmm you know, as of recent tales with CR Turbo's in reference to my k03 hybrid, there were some "doubts" shall we say on what actually was done

this I only found out in terms of their quality of service when Bill was twoing and frowing with them regarding the k03 hybrid

I am starting to have doubts with CRT, especially now that you are having these issues. This is not good at all. Sorry mate. Turbo was all fine when it was taken off
 

Bazzle

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are you 100% its the seals as vr turbos fitted uprated seals to this...as the stock atp were crap and thin...

il give u a bell later about it baz....see what i can do..


Well to be honest im not as clued up as you are bud. Im ony guessin cuz its pissin out oil when i rev it. :doh:
Iv had everythin dissconnected apart from the turbo and the oil feed to the turbo. Felt the shaft and it spins freely, hasnt been hitting the inner casing or anythin and there seems to be no movement. But with a slight rev, oil shoots out the pressure side. Cant see what else it could be? thanks man, much appreciated.
Ill add you to my xmas card list lol:funk:
 

DaNnY_LaD

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hmmmm you know, as of recent tales with CR Turbo's in reference to my k03 hybrid, there were some "doubts" shall we say on what actually was done

this I only found out in terms of their quality of service when Bill was twoing and frowing with them regarding the k03 hybrid

I am starting to have doubts with CRT, especially now that you are having these issues. This is not good at all. Sorry mate. Turbo was all fine when it was taken off

Anton ur the 1st person every to say that about cr turbos...which should be interesting?

Well to be honest im not as clued up as you are bud. Im ony guessin cuz its pissin out oil when i rev it. :doh:
Iv had everythin dissconnected apart from the turbo and the oil feed to the turbo. Felt the shaft and it spins freely, hasnt been hitting the inner casing or anythin and there seems to be no movement. But with a slight rev, oil shoots out the pressure side. Cant see what else it could be? thanks man, much appreciated.
Ill add you to my xmas card list lol:funk:

if i send u the recipt you can have some sort of proof of there work...surely it should be under some kind of warranty...

have u email mark about it..? il ring u in 20mins mate just when u answer speak slowly as i cant understand u scottish ''Im Ard'' accent..:ban:
 

jamiebennett81

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Well to be honest im not as clued up as you are bud. Im ony guessin cuz its pissin out oil when i rev it. :doh:
Iv had everythin dissconnected apart from the turbo and the oil feed to the turbo. Felt the shaft and it spins freely, hasnt been hitting the inner casing or anythin and there seems to be no movement. But with a slight rev, oil shoots out the pressure side. Cant see what else it could be? thanks man, much appreciated.
Ill add you to my xmas card list lol:funk:

Do you have an oil restrictor and elbow onto the turbo for the oil feed?

where exactly is the oil coming from? from the banjo feed or the seals?

i.e. is it from from the top or the bottom of the turbo, as it could be oil drain...?
 

Bazzle

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Anton ur the 1st person every to say that about cr turbos...which should be interesting?



if i send u the recipt you can have some sort of proof of there work...surely it should be under some kind of warranty...

have u email mark about it..? il ring u in 20mins mate just when u answer speak slowly as i cant understand u scottish ''Im Ard'' accent..:ban:

lol no probs ill try translate slow for ya, i aint phoned anyone yet cuz i thought this was somethin id just have to save and fix myself. Your all so helpfull. brings a tear to my little scottish eye :cry: :D
 

Bazzle

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Do you have an oil restrictor and elbow onto the turbo for the oil feed?

where exactly is the oil coming from? from the banjo feed or the seals?

i.e. is it from from the top or the bottom of the turbo, as it could be oil drain...?

Yes theres a 90 degree off the oil feed to a restrictor pinion.
The oil is shooting out the turbo when you rev it. Out from the compressor wheel and all over the engine bay. Filling my boost pipes and intercooler with oil. and it was smoking ike a B*tch.
 

jamiebennett81

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Anton ur the 1st person every to say that about cr turbos...which should be interesting?



if i send u the recipt you can have some sort of proof of there work...surely it should be under some kind of warranty...

have u email mark about it..? il ring u in 20mins mate just when u answer speak slowly as i cant understand u scottish ''Im Ard'' accent..:ban:

hit me up on msn Danny....
 

Bazzle

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Contacted mark at CR turbos, Decent guy. Got straight back to me with an explination of the seals in the turbo and what he think could have caused the problem.

Hey Barry!

There's a lot of apparent misconceptions about those "seal" things....
I'm not sure what people imagine them to look like but they are a piston ring.Exactly the same as the rings on your pistons in your engine.
When the turbo was overhauled and uprated we fitted the stepped-gap total-seal type piston rings.This, combined with the oil inlet restrictor would prevent any re-occuring smoke problems.

Now... Oil is fed as you know, into the turbo under pressure from the engine, it travels through the journal bearings and falls out the bottom of the turbo by gravity into the sump. The piston rings have a gap in them, and the pressure difference acting on that gap (.001") is sufficient to retain the oil within the turbo whist it passes through.You have back pressure in the exhaust and boosted air pressure in the compressor side. This acting on the ring will retain the oil.
If the bearings wear, the shaft will move excessively and this wears the ring and the groove the ring sits in.

Some cars, particularly your VW/Audi/Seat run high oil pressure. The turbo is happy with 35Psi but the cars are getting upto 80Psi so they benifit from a restrictor being fitted to drop that pressure.

As far as warranty goes, if the turbo or parts thereof are faulty then we'll sort it out. However it is unlikely to be honest.Its probably had a bit of contamination again.What we can do is offer to fix it at a reduced rate because we try to be helpful, and nice and stuff!! :)
Let us have a look at the turbo, to rebuild it again will cost £225-£325 depending on its condition
Hope this helps!
Mark Arnold
 

DaNnY_LaD

Big Turbo Leon Cupra R
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Contacted mark at CR turbos, Decent guy. Got straight back to me with an explination of the seals in the turbo and what he think could have caused the problem.

Hey Barry!

There's a lot of apparent misconceptions about those "seal" things....
I'm not sure what people imagine them to look like but they are a piston ring.Exactly the same as the rings on your pistons in your engine.
When the turbo was overhauled and uprated we fitted the stepped-gap total-seal type piston rings.This, combined with the oil inlet restrictor would prevent any re-occuring smoke problems.

Now... Oil is fed as you know, into the turbo under pressure from the engine, it travels through the journal bearings and falls out the bottom of the turbo by gravity into the sump. The piston rings have a gap in them, and the pressure difference acting on that gap (.001") is sufficient to retain the oil within the turbo whist it passes through.You have back pressure in the exhaust and boosted air pressure in the compressor side. This acting on the ring will retain the oil.
If the bearings wear, the shaft will move excessively and this wears the ring and the groove the ring sits in.

Some cars, particularly your VW/Audi/Seat run high oil pressure. The turbo is happy with 35Psi but the cars are getting upto 80Psi so they benifit from a restrictor being fitted to drop that pressure.

As far as warranty goes, if the turbo or parts thereof are faulty then we'll sort it out. However it is unlikely to be honest.Its probably had a bit of contamination again.What we can do is offer to fix it at a reduced rate because we try to be helpful, and nice and stuff!! :)
Let us have a look at the turbo, to rebuild it again will cost £225-£325 depending on its condition
Hope this helps!
Mark Arnold


Well that was a load of Crap...

Seariously the Seals Between the Bearing Have failed...Contaimation would be When you fitted yours baz was it Fully Flushed With New Oil Filter?

The Price he has Given you is a Tad high as Nothing else Is being Replaced Just the seals ''O rings'' Send it to him but it no way in hell needs a full rebuild considering it covered 1200 miles with me and Around 400ish with you...

Defo a failure on there part....
 

Bazzle

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Well that was a load of Crap...

Seariously the Seals Between the Bearing Have failed...Contaimation would be When you fitted yours baz was it Fully Flushed With New Oil Filter?

The Price he has Given you is a Tad high as Nothing else Is being Replaced Just the seals ''O rings'' Send it to him but it no way in hell needs a full rebuild considering it covered 1200 miles with me and Around 400ish with you...

Defo a failure on there part....

Took it off today
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Yeah man, i flushed the oil and changed the filter before i even started the car once the new turbo was on. There is slight movement in the shaft but will there not be to allow for heat expansion ect? or is there meant to be no travel whatso ever? Turbo was FULL of oil. :(

I miss it already :cry:
 
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Bazzle

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Theres ment to be some movement but hardly any..

Defo Cr turbos **** up...

Yeah that would be about right then, yeah 400 miles or so with me about 300 of them not even taking it up past 2500 -3000 rpm till i got the injectors :( so mabey 100 - 150 miles of proper use. :confused:

This time round another forte engine oil flush and filter change, some magnitec 10w40 oil and an EBC to make SURE the problem doesnt happen again me thinks. And alot of hope :shrug:
 

ibizacupra

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how is the drain pipe? kinked? collapsed? that will cause the same oil pissing out of seals scenario
 
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