JamJay's 290bhp Ovni Yellow LCR - Latest: SOLD & Replaced With A BMW 335i Cabrio

[Murdered LCR]

Check you with a fancy index lol will look now

 

[Aimez]

shame you never made it the meet last Sat Jason glad you keeping the car see you at Amd RR day, also glad you like your coilovers I never bought KW fro same reasons as you.

 

[JamJay]

Exhaust Opinions

Thanks Aimee. Sorry to miss you at the meet last weekend, I didn;t get back into the UK until 1am that night but I hope to be at the next one. AMD is a defo, I'll be coming with Tim but I'll have my car too this time round


Right all, the wheels are turning in this department too and I have 4 options:

1. Longlife - Offer 2.5" system £379 fitted or 3" system £429 fitted with any variation of tailpipe and noise level. No 2.75" option and guy on the phone was of the opinion that 2.5" would be enough, is he right?

2. Hayward & Scott (Essex folk will know) - Offer 3" system £550 fitted.

3. Blueflame - Offer 2.75" non-res system £385 + delivery + 3wks lead time.

4. New design Milltek - Offer 2.75" into 3" back-box system £ - enquiry with AMD but circa £400 + delivery IIRC.

The above means that essentially LongLife have priced themselves out of it, especially when competing against better manufacturers like BF & Milltek. Haward & Scott are massively more expensive but I trust them more although the extra cash they want over anyone else has just bought me a 3" TIP.

What are your thoughts?

The guy I spoke to at Hayward and Scott was very knowledgable and helpful. I am almost inclined to put my money here but the price is off putting in comparison to the competition. As some of you might know, I want quite a loud system that is free flowing, I know it'll pop and bang a lot but the racing driver in me wants that so please help. These seem to be my only options as my original plans fell through. Longlife seem like a good bet but I can't help feeling like they'd screw it up, unless I'm being silly.

 

[Willie]

The rate that the exhaust gases are cooling down during their passage down the exhaust system teres no real need for 3" all the way back to the tail pipe.
For the above choices I'd go longlife 3".
I'd worry that 2.5" would be a bit too much of a step down.
I've got a Powerflow CAT back which is 2.75" with 6" x 4" tail pipe

Not the best but the cheapest.
Sounds great with 288BHP and a 3" deCAT'd DP

 

[JamJay]

The rate that the exhaust gases are cooling down during their passage down the exhaust system teres no real need for 3" all the way back to the tail pipe.
For the above choices I'd go longlife 3".
I'd worry that 2.5" would be a bit too much of a step down.
I've got a Powerflow CAT back which is 2.75" with 6" x 4" tail pipe

Not the best but the cheapest.
Sounds great with 288BHP and a 3" deCAT'd DP

Thanks very much for the input. How do you rate the build quality? I have a Powerflow centre right around the corner, the closest of them all but I hear the most 'horror' stories about them. I will give them a call later and see how competetive they are.

 

[t0m]

Nothing wrong with AP coilies my friends, I don't find mine 'harsh' at all and got free fitting Mine have been on the car for 7 months now and not a single issue, just will give them a clean and grease when the car is next on some ramps so I can do as much as I can.

They're made from the same components as the Weitec's and unless your tracking the car nearly every month, I wouldn't go near KW's considering their price...

Shaun at AmD told me they get far more warranty issues with KW's than the Weitec's and least of all complaints are from AP's which they've not had a single problem with.

Back on the exhaust territory though, LongLife seems your best option there, but Hayward & Scott do know what they're doing.. Depends if you want to spend the bucks or not Jason. I think LongLife's flexibility would sway it for me too as your craving a certain 'race' sound to the exhaust.

I would love for you to have something in place for AmD RR day so we can hear it though! I got a short vid of my Milltek today (car on drive not moving though) which I'll stick up in my RRide in a bit.

 

[Willie]

Thanks very much for the input. How do you rate the build quality? I have a Powerflow centre right around the corner, the closest of them all but I hear the most 'horror' stories about them. I will give them a call later and see how competetive they are.

Build quality on mine is fine but its all down to the welder. If he's prudent it'll be a good job.
Depends what you want, a cat back is a cat back.
Not fond of the Milltek tail exit shapes

 

[JamJay]

Thanks Willie.

Right all, I've put a Poll up to make it easier so if anyone who is reading this doesn't mind voting, that would be great .

I just obtained a quote from the local Powerflow centre who will do a 3" Cat-Back for between £320 & £350 fitted. Bookings as early as this Saturday so what do you think?

 

[Willie]

I don't know much about Longlife, but you have to consider is it worth saving £79 to gamble that you might not like the noise?
I'd go Longlife 3" with a 6" x 4" oval tail pipe and as little baffle as possible

 

[jonjay]

Hayward and Scott, cannot recommend them enough. They did my whole 3" turbo back system and it works very well. They also did all my FMIC pipework and the quality of the work is amazing.

 

[JamJay]

I don't know much about Longlife, but you have to consider is it worth saving £79 to gamble that you might not like the noise?
I'd go Longlife 3" with a 6" x 4" oval tail pipe and as little baffle as possible

As far as I know, Powerflow and Longlife use the same process and will both give me what I want with the same tailpipes and the ability to choose how loud I want it. The only difference here is the price, saving a minimum of £79 if I go with Powerflow. It does beg the question however, how can Powerflow potentially be £110 cheaper?

Hayward and Scott, cannot recommend them enough. They did my hole 3" turbo back system and it works very well. They also did all my FMIC pipework and the quality of the work is amazing.

I'd have no hesitation if the price wasn't so high and the distance wasn't so far for any potential warranty issues.

 

[jonjay]

As far as I know, Powerflow and Longlife use the same process and will both give me what I want with the same tailpipes and the ability to choose how loud I want it. The only difference here is the price, saving a minimum of £79 if I go with Powerflow. It does beg the question however, how can Powerflow potentially be £110 cheaper?



I'd have no hesitation if the price wasn't so high and the distance wasn't so far for any potential warranty issues.

Pay for what you get! I have heard some of their exhaust systems and they are amazing.

 

[t0m]

Ok it was a Peugeot 206 1.4, 2001 plate... BUT my Powerflow system was spot on when I had that done. No problems with it and it sounded great. I had the car for just under 2 years and it was running the Powerflow for around 17/18 months, I can't remember exactly sorry, but around that time..

I would give them a go to be perfectly honest. I did originally think LongLife as I've heard good things on here, but for the money Powerflow has to be a massive shout really. Especially as you can tailor what your after.

I went for the Milltek on the LCR this time as I wanted the exhaust/remap deal (but stage 2) AmD we're doing.

I would consider Powerflow or LongLife myself with no hesitation if I was filtering by price for sure. Hayward & Scott would no doubt do an amazing job, but if that is a stretch too much and the distance for any warranty issues, then give P'flow or LongLife a go.

 

[JamJay]

Pay for what you get! I have heard some of their exhaust systems and they are amazing.

Indeed you do but sometimes you pay over the odds for what you get. I will be chuffed to bits with whatever they fit I would imagine but if I can get the same smiles and satisfaction from something £100+ cheaper then it's a no brainer. If some extra cash comes my way in the enxt couple of weeks then I'll head over but I think perhaps this is just a tad too much for a cat-back system.

Ok it was a Peugeot 206 1.4, 2001 plate... BUT my Powerflow system was spot on when I had that done. No problems with it and it sounded great. I had the car for just under 2 years and it was running the Powerflow for around 17/18 months, I can't remember exactly sorry, but around that time..

I would give them a go to be perfectly honest. I did originally think LongLife as I've heard good things on here, but for the money Powerflow has to be a massive shout really. Especially as you can tailor what your after.

I went for the Milltek on the LCR this time as I wanted the exhaust/remap deal (but stage 2) AmD we're doing.

I would consider Powerflow or LongLife myself with no hesitation if I was filtering by price for sure. Hayward & Scott would no doubt do an amazing job, but if that is a stretch too much and the distance for any warranty issues, then give P'flow or LongLife a go.

Thanks for some positive feedback about Powerflow. You only ever hear the bad stories but for every one of them, there are probably 20 satisfied customers. The PF centre is also only 1 mile away and the lifetime warranty is a draw, if they screw it up then they have to fix it although I'd prefer they do it right first time round.

 

[t0m]

Thanks for some positive feedback about Powerflow. You only ever hear the bad stories but for every one of them, there are probably 20 satisfied customers. The PF centre is also only 1 mile away and the lifetime warranty is a draw, if they screw it up then they have to fix it although I'd prefer they do it right first time round.

Yeah pretty much. My mate at the same time a few years ago had a full Powerflow system from the same place as mine (RSR Tyres & Wheels, Bromley) on his Corsa B Sri, again it was only a 1.4, but he never maintained his car and it took a battering to be honest. Someone else has the car in our area now and the exhaust is still on it and sounding sweet! I saw it about 3 weeks ago and remember telling him about the sighting, lol.

So handy it's only that far away like you say. Not much to lose to be honest from going there mate, always got that lifetime warranty

 

[jonjay]

Indeed you do but sometimes you pay over the odds for what you get. I will be chuffed to bits with whatever they fit I would imagine but if I can get the same smiles and satisfaction from something £100+ cheaper then it's a no brainer. If some extra cash comes my way in the enxt couple of weeks then I'll head over but I think perhaps this is just a tad too much for a cat-back system.

Very subjective though? What I mean is you could get two systems one not as good quality build and the other very good. Both sound similar but 12months down the line there are problems. Both have lifetime warranty but is your time wasted worth £100 difference?

Personally I think you should go for the miltek system and stage 2 upgrade with AmD. Cant argue with the service from Miltek and AmD tbh.

 

[JamJay]

Very subjective though? What I mean is you could get two systems one not as good quality build and the other very good. Both sound similar but 12months down the line there are problems. Both have lifetime warranty but is your time wasted worth £100 difference?

Personally I think you should go for the miltek system and stage 2 upgrade with AmD. Cant argue with the service from Miltek and AmD tbh.

In the case of Powerflow, the difference is over £200 + fuel so quite a saving in this case. I hear what you're saying totally though. As for Milltek, I do like them, they sound extremely nice but I can't help wanting something that sounds more raw. Milltek would be a consideration though if you all came in here and posted horror stories about custom systems, on the other had I have never heard a non-resonated Blueflame, only resonated.

 

[JamJay]

Would any of you subscribers be able to help me with this brake related issue here?

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=304287

 

[K1Shane]

Well i've read it from start to finish! lol

Youve come a long way from the begining and the car looks in great shape mate

Yeah pretty much. My mate at the same time a few years ago had a full Powerflow system from the same place as mine (RSR Tyres & Wheels, Bromley) on his Corsa B Sri, again it was only a 1.4, but he never maintained his car and it took a battering to be honest. Someone else has the car in our area now and the exhaust is still on it and sounding sweet! I saw it about 3 weeks ago and remember telling him about the sighting, lol.

So handy it's only that far away like you say. Not much to lose to be honest from going there mate, always got that lifetime warranty

I can also put in a good word for RSR in bromley. I believe the guys name is Neil? (don't quote me, this was 3 years ago) But it was a full system on my Corsa B. I had the 2.0L redtop in the front, 4-2-1 manifold and straight through to the backbox. Pukka welding and as far as I know the car/exhaust is still being ragged around croydon somewhere

It also werent that expensive either. I was just like you when I went to get it done. So I asked him what he had booked in for the week. He told me he had an R33 skyline in over the weekend. So I popped along and watched him fit a straight through with a nice 4" jap slash back box. That made my mind up, because 1) he CAN weld! 2) he was happy for me to watch his work 3) he offered a decent price


Its your descision. But that was my experience. Theres no harm in asking to physically see their work as opposed to seeing photo's or magazine pics

 

[JamJay]

Well i've read it from start to finish! lol

Youve come a long way from the begining and the car looks in great shape mate



I can also put in a good word for RSR in bromley. I believe the guys name is Neil? (don't quote me, this was 3 years ago) But it was a full system on my Corsa B. I had the 2.0L redtop in the front, 4-2-1 manifold and straight through to the backbox. Pukka welding and as far as I know the car/exhaust is still being ragged around croydon somewhere

It also werent that expensive either. I was just like you when I went to get it done. So I asked him what he had booked in for the week. He told me he had an R33 skyline in over the weekend. So I popped along and watched him fit a straight through with a nice 4" jap slash back box. That made my mind up, because 1) he CAN weld! 2) he was happy for me to watch his work 3) he offered a decent price


Its your descision. But that was my experience. Theres no harm in asking to physically see their work as opposed to seeing photo's or magazine pics

Thanks Shane, she's coming along well now. Thanks for the review of the custom exhaust too, if they can competently make one for an engine transplant then I have confidence. I also asked some local lads that I used to know about my Local RSR and the recommendations were good so on that note everyone...the car is booked in to have the system fitted on 19th Feb, the day before the AMD RR day. I hope it sounds nice or you'll all laugh but it'll be a few months before it soots up any how.

As for my brake issue, it has everyone stumped so this weekend I will be pulling things apart while also, hopefully, fitting the ARB bushes and TIP if it arrives