Newbie- basic Q's on me new motor!

[Zoot]

It might be worth trying to set off on the hill using the handbrake to hold the car until the clutch is biting (unless you are already doing that?)

Does it happen when you are on a flat road? If yes then that would indicate the gear linkage issue.

Hi Dan,

no it only happens on an incline. Now, this would of course suggest I'm being inept. But not so.
If the incline is steeper, then one would of course use the handbrake. So I'm referring to a gentle slope only.

It is very difficult for me to explain it seems, in boxes of text, but I have no alternative. So I'll try again, clearer:

1) I've pulled over on the LHS of an empty b-road. It has a gentle forward slope.
2) The car is running, my indicator on.
3) My foot is on the brake, I've only pulled over after all.

Right this the bit where the "issue" happens:

4) I put the car into 1st gear
5) I transfer my Right foot off the brake over to the accelerator
6) At this RH foot transfer, the car remains stationary
7) I find & feel the bite point using the clutch + accelerator (as I've been doing so, in every car I've had since 1989, all manuals, all bar one VW too)

Now this is the crux. This is where this car is acting differently to any I've had, or driven..

8) I indicate R, check mirrors, & gently squeeze the accelerator
9) Whilst gently squeezing the accelerator, I of course gently release the clutch
10) The car moves backwards.

I have initiated this move by using the two pedals. This is not a question of momentarily being in neutral, nor is it a momentary situation of the car not being in gear whilst my two feet are to-froing between the clutch & accelerator.

11) The car moves let's call it 1 yard backwards
12) I continue to gently squeeze the accelerator (I have not lifted my R foot at all)
13) The car switches from reverse momentum, to forward momentum.
14) I am now in familiar territory: the car is working normally
15) Off I go

So I am without question, innitiating this reverse momentum with the accelerator pedal, if for only 1yd before it changes to forward momentum: I can't call it "reverse gear" because I'm not in reverse gear.

Thanks, Zoot

 

[DanMCGARRETT]

Got you, I can't really think of anything else that would explain it, unless there's a fault with the hill hold assist - it should only activate on a significant gradient but if there's a fault it might be activating/releasing early

 

[Zoot]

Got you, I can't really think of anything else that would explain it, unless there's a fault with the hill hold assist - it should only activate on a significant gradient but if there's a fault it might be activating/releasing early

It doesn't feel like any assist thing not working. Although tbh Ive never heard of such a thing, so actually don't know what you mean!

I still don't think Ive explained it properly yet still. If I can maybe get my Ma to hold my iPad while I video a brief clip, of me driving the bloomin thing, stick it on YouTube. Do a link. That'll sure as likely get 3m views.

In the meantime, maybe at the least I might win a prize for the most boring series of posts, on any forum by a human. But maybe I'm 3/4 neanderthal.. I've always suspected I might well be.

Thanks, Zoot

 

[DanMCGARRETT]

Hill hold assist just holds the brake pressure for 3 seconds when on a gradient to allow the driver to move from brake to accelerator. From the sounds of it, there doesn't seem to be any issue with that so I can't think of anything else that may indicate a fault or issue.

 

[Zoot]

Hill hold assist just holds the brake pressure for 3 seconds when on a gradient to allow the driver to move from brake to accelerator. From the sounds of it, there doesn't seem to be any issue with that so I can't think of anything else that may indicate a fault or issue.

Aha I get it. It (my issue thing) might just be an idiosyncracy of diesel cars. You might not recognise it, due to sheer familiarity.

When one get's a new car, you're always extra gentle with the accelerator just bc of getting used to it/ where it's bite point is/ how sudden it is all being unfamiliar.. especially so for me coming from a 1.4i to a 2.0tdi. So I suspect I -might- be overtly aware, of just the way it is. You for eg, might inherently step on that pedal more immediately, kinda muscle memory, to overcome this brief shift backwards/ ironing it out pronto as it were.